Mini Cooper S 7 speed auto any good?

Dangerous Dave · 12 Sep 2018 at 20:26

thewanted said:
That's very good. The best I've got is 47 in the Cooper S which I think is impressive, but that's not easy to achieve consistently.

DCT Cooper S can hit mid 50s on a run, I've never had a manual one long enough to compare gear ratios but expect the taller 7th makes a big difference.

thewanted · 12 Sep 2018 at 20:49

Dangerous Dave said:
DCT Cooper S can hit mid 50s on a run, I've never had a manual one long enough to compare gear ratios but expect the taller 7th makes a big difference.

That's insane for a 200BHP petrol car. I bet the 8 speed box in the Countryman can't beat that.

Nasher · 12 Sep 2018 at 21:21

Most modern cars with about that HP will top 50mpg while cruising tbh.

Jonnycoupe · 12 Sep 2018 at 21:22

Not petrol....

Nasher · 12 Sep 2018 at 21:22

Jonnycoupe said:
Not petrol....

Yea they can. My Fiesta ST could and so can the gt86.

Janesy B · 12 Sep 2018 at 21:49

Never gotten more than 45mpg actual measured over a tank at motorway speeds in my Fiesta ST. I'm sure if I reset the onboard counter when sat on a nice flat motorway I could get it showing 50 for a while.

Nasher · 12 Sep 2018 at 21:53

I used to get 36 with some town driving and over 50 on the dual carriageway in the ST pretty easily. That was with MP215 upgrade as well. The gt86 isn't quite as good, but do-able if you just sit at 65-70 with cruise control on.

47.5 was the official combined figure on the ST I think, but won't get that in reality with urban driving mixed in.

Dangerous Dave · 12 Sep 2018 at 22:06

It’s the extra gear ratios allowing a taller top gear that is helping on the MPG front, extra ratio in the Golf R 7.5 took it from around 42-44 in the older 6 speed to 48-50mpg on a run with the 7 speed.

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 13 Sep 2018 at 09:05

TT will also spit out around those sorts of numbers.

However peoples definition of a run will make a lot of diff.

Mine seems to stick pretty well to the old addage of +10mph = +10% fuel. It returns around 50mpg at 70, but at 80 its about 45mpg. All indicated by OBC, but distance vs fuel to fill back up seems to validate those sorts of numbers.

Simon · 13 Sep 2018 at 11:30

Nasher said:
Most modern cars with about that HP will top 50mpg while cruising tbh.

At what speed. Or are you referring to picking up men when you say cruising ?

Dangerous Dave · 13 Sep 2018 at 12:22

A run for me is a trip over 50miles and 1 or 2 mph over the speed limit on the motorway so I’m not crawling past cars on cruise.

Current generation of petrol engines are very good on the fuel consumption helped by the ever increasing number of gears getting put in the auto boxes.

Nasher · 13 Sep 2018 at 12:33

6 gear manuals will do it to. It's the gear ratios that matter.

Dr Who · 13 Sep 2018 at 12:52

[TW]Fox said:
My phone is in my pocket when driving – it’s illegal to use a handheld phone when driving and phones stuck to windscreens are ridiculous, especially when you’ve specced a widescreen nav system with head up display.

On my 5 Series RTTI generally works well and the nav system has a semi accurate arrival time listed which takes into account realtime traffic flow. The Mini doesn’t have this and instead relies on TMC for traffic information which is much less sporadic and reports only traffic events rather than additional delay due to slow traffic flow.

Given that RTTI was introduced by BMW in 2011 on the CIC navigation system it is frustrating and annoying that up until February 2018 it wasn’t available on the Mini – even though it has the slightly newer NBT Evo system which is itself an incremental upgrade over that in my 5 Series and is the same as that found across the BMW range – where RTTI is available.

You shouldn’t have to stick phones with Waze to the dash when you’ve spent £1200 on an upgraded navigation system on a 2018 BMW product. It’s really bad, IMHO.

A decent system will do Android/Iphone screen mirroring, bluetooth etc, maybe it is the BMW system that is lacking? https://mirrorlink.com/cars Any decent driver will set up the system before driving, including sat nav systems.

Dangerous Dave · 13 Sep 2018 at 13:23

Nasher said:
6 gear manuals will do it to. It's the gear ratios that matter.

The newer 7,8,9 & 10 autoboxes are getting the crusing revs much lower than the 6 speed boxes.

With the Golf R the 6 speed box was at roughly 2700 revs at 70mph the 7 speed is 2100.

[TW]Fox · 13 Sep 2018 at 13:40

Dr Who said:
, maybe it is the BMW system that is lacking?

Well yes, this is exactly my point - the system is lacking in its traffic provision :confused:

matthab · 13 Sep 2018 at 15:01

[TW]Fox said:
Well yes, this is exactly my point - the system is lacking in its traffic provision

Android Auto and Apple Car Play I wish BMW would get on and implement it. Its the one option thats stopping me going to BMW, I use Waze almost daily and AA allows me to have it all on one screen. Every hire car I have for work has it now from Vauxhall right up to Volvo.

J1nxy · 13 Sep 2018 at 15:26

matthab said:
Android Auto and Apple Car Play I wish BMW would get on and implement it. Its the one option thats stopping me going to BMW, I use Waze almost daily and AA allows me to have it all on one screen. Every hire car I have for work has it now from Vauxhall right up to Volvo.

BMW have done done car play for at least 12 months as its available on 3 series etc with the latest idrive

[TW]Fox · 13 Sep 2018 at 15:29

matthab said:
Android Auto and Apple Car Play I wish BMW would get on and implement it. Its the one option thats stopping me going to BMW, I use Waze almost daily and AA allows me to have it all on one screen. Every hire car I have for work has it now from Vauxhall right up to Volvo.

It's now available across the BMW and Mini range.

mark66 · 13 Sep 2018 at 19:56

matthab said:
Android Auto and Apple Car Play I wish BMW would get on and implement it. Its the one option thats stopping me going to BMW, I use Waze almost daily and AA allows me to have it all on one screen. Every hire car I have for work has it now from Vauxhall right up to Volvo.

I’ve getting Apple Car Play with the next Mini. I haven’t used it before, will it mirror all apps, eg Waze? I was under the impression it will only mirror official Apple apps? Will be great if this is not the case!