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Geforce GTX30xx series 7nm speculation thread...

7nm would surely signify a new card series wouldn't it? That would be a big deal, going from 12nm to 7nm... power savings, size etc. I can see that being a 30xx series or something else even. But doing this too soon seems like it would backfire... Nvidia can't be ignorant to the consumer reaction to the pricing of the 20xx series, and even their share price has taken a small hit (although it will recover I'm sure). 7nm GPUs must be a year away at the very least I'd imagine.

I'm not too clued up on the mining side of things, but from what I'm reading there isn't any expectation this is going to see a return anytime soon, but you never know. The whole US/China trade war is going to have more of an impact, although I don't know what this will do to UK prices exactly.
 
Legend said:
Right, so now the 20xx series is done and no one's buying because it's so expensive, who's looking forward to the 7nm cards? Rumour has it that Nvidia are going to require downpayment with one of your organs next time.

Seriously though, now that £1K barrier has been breached, is this the norm? I can't see new card prices falling back to what Pascal was on release. It's like what's happening with mobile phones, but you'd think there has to be a limit.
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Actually, Turing was designed for Samsung's 10nm process, so I bet next year the 21xx series going to be at that and not 7nm.
 
3070 @ £649
3080 @ £999
3080Ti @ £1499

BOOOM and thats just regular versions, add some more for Strix. :D
 
Gibbo said:
3070 @ £649
3080 @ £999
3080Ti @ £1499

BOOOM and thats just regular versions, add some more for Strix. :D
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Not meaning to use the B word, but if the European thing keep heading the way it is I do wonder what the pound will be worth in 6 months time. In some ways paying for a new card now might not be the worst decision, the 30xx card might end up being silly money.
 
Gibbo said:
3070 @ £649
3080 @ £999
3080Ti @ £1499

BOOOM and thats just regular versions, add some more for Strix. :D
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Thanks for head's up Gibbo ill start putting money left from raving in to piggy jar should be enough by time they are in OCUK Warehouse :)

BTW You need to change signature from Mustang..... To the M3 or at lest Clio :D
 
Panos said:
Actually, Turing was designed for Samsung's 10nm process, so I bet next year the 21xx series going to be at that and not 7nm.
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Even though it has come from the mouth of someone at Asus I'm pretty sure this is complete BS. Samsung 10nm was focused primarily on low end parts and was always intended for that kind of use, was implemented in good time and without any real issues - if it had been suited to GPUs nVidia would have used it. Volta was intended for sub 20nm planar due to requirements in commercial use but ended up on 12FF.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some nVidia GPUs made at Samsung though possibly even whole generations - they've made some smaller cores there and the odd big core Turing has supposedly been photographed though I've not heard of anyone finding them in production cards.
 
Jfan said:
I wish ati could get there **** together. And give nvidia some competition
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I think with the level of R&D spend Vs returns in consumer graphics, it may be a one horse race for a few gens. AMD have some sensible management at the moment, I speculate the next couple of releases for them will be Polaris like, moderately small die, upper mid range performance.

Can't say that's a terrible idea, especially in developing markets.
 
Jfan said:
I wish ati could get there **** together. And give nvidia some competition
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If only everyone who said this actually intended to buy an AMD card if/when they sort themselves out. But no, you just want them to force NV prices down so you can buy green again :P
 
Satchfanuk said:
If only everyone who said this actually intended to buy an AMD card if/when they sort themselves out. But no, you just want them to force NV prices down so you can buy green again :p
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I guess its possible, but if they did a card better than my 1080ti and at a sensible price I'd get one
I have a freesync monitor after all, so would be a bonus
 
chrcoluk said:
3070 £799.99 MSRP retail price £1199
3080 £1099.99 MSRP retail price £1499
3080ti £1499 MSRP retail price £1999
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Why are you guys encouraging them with such posts. Lol. Seen this ridiculous predictions quite a few times now and if not careful it might come true.

My speculation based up on all the negative press, what seems to be a lack of interest, lack of sales relative to pascal and finally 7nm being on a much smaller die:

3070 FE = $449
3080 FE = $699
3080Ti FE = $999

With the weak pound/gouging those prices will be translated straight to pounds. The non founders editions like the clown editions might be £20-50 cheaper depending on the card. The reason I went with FE prices is, let’s be honest that is the real price, no decent AIB prices it lower than this price anyway, unless it is a poor cooler.

The above are the maximum prices I can see them charging by the way. It really should be a bit cheaper. What I think would be fair and would get them a lot more sales which they should go for to get more market share before Intel come to take a chunk away:

3070 FE = $399
3080 FE = $599
3080Ti FE = $799
 
Nvidia already have market share and I'm not expecting Intel to do much anytime soon, look at how far behind AMD are with their GPU history. Also, Intel I think may need to focus on their CPU's as they're being caught up/overtaken there. I personally don't rate the ex-AMD guy they have well either but will be interesting what he comes up with that does not cause trouble with his ex-employer.
I have no idea what 3*** prices will be but you can be sure it'll be the right price for NV to sell enough of (max manufacturing capacity). I think prices could be lower in future, we don't know.
The 2080 Ti is showing us a problem they have atm, and that is getting them out the door into the hands of customers. If the supply is low, the price goes up to make it worthwhile selling them. If that changes in future then prices "could" come down a bit.
It's no good us dictating what we think prices should be - we have no idea of the factors that AMD or NV need to consider.

It does make me laugh when people talk about Intel shaking things up. It wasn't long ago they were even worse than NVidia. Mainstream stuck with 4 cores, HEDT max 10 cores only(suddenly now we have 18). At least NV are pushing the boundaries on new technology this time, even without competition, if not sheer outright FPS.
Intel's history should tell us that if they were in the position NV is in when it comes to GPU's, they'd probably be worse!
 
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DarrenM343 said:
Nvidia already have market share and I'm not expecting Intel to do much anytime soon, look at how far behind AMD are with their GPU history. Also, Intel I think may need to focus on their CPU's as they're being caught up/overtaken there. I personally don't rate the ex-AMD guy they have well either but will be interesting what he comes up with that does not cause trouble with his ex-employer.
I have no idea what 3*** prices will be but you can be sure it'll be the right price for NV to sell enough of (max manufacturing capacity). I think prices could be lower in future, we don't know.
The 2080 Ti is showing us a problem they have atm, and that is getting them out the door into the hands of customers. If the supply is low, the price goes up to make it worthwhile selling them. If that changes in future then prices "could" come down a bit.
It's no good us dictating what we think prices should be - we have no idea of the factors that AMD or NV need to consider.

It does make me laugh when people talk about Intel shaking things up. It wasn't long ago they were even worse than NVidia. Mainstream stuck with 4 cores, HEDT max 10 cores only(suddenly now we have 18). At least NV are pushing the boundaries on new technology this time, even without competition, if not sheer outright FPS.
Intel's history should tell us that if they were in the position NV is in when it comes to GPU's, they'd probably be worse!
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I think when people say intel to shake things up, they are referring to more competition in the space. That is what I think anyway.
 
I actually expect to see a refresh of the 2000 series next year.

Pricing is too high and RT performance too low.

They'll want to fix that and bring the two closer together.
 
You'll need an online account to active past basic desktop functions, then:

3070 @ £6.50 / hour up time
3080 @ £10 / hour up time
3080Ti @ £15 / hour up time

:D
 
I missed gibbos posts, my MSRP was close to his predictions, but I also added the gouging markup :)

I feel that yields must be terrible at the moment as even with pre orders stocks are a pittance,
 
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