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So which EU law has personally impacted your life?
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Calls other people idiots but cant think of a single logical reason to support leaving.....
How simple your world is.....
I voted remain in 2016 but I think the situation has now changed and its not just as simple as cancelling brexit and thinking that it will be anything like buisness as usual either with the rest of the EU or with a considerable section of the domestic populace.
Here I'll give you three reasons to consider leaving the EU.
1) Remaining in the EU offers no realistic prospect for controlling immigration from the rest of the EU.
2) the UK is a net contributor to the EU
3) the EU is, inherently, less democractic then the constituent national governments of its members
Now that's not a set of arguments that necessarily, on balance, indicate that we should have voted Leave or that we should maintain the policy of leaving the EU. But they are logical points to consider when looking at leaving the EU as an option.
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I’m not going to pander after your demands for me to explain myself when you continually insult everyone who voted leave as idiots, thereby insulting many members of this forum and a great number of my friends and family.
If I was a mod I would ask you to tone down your constant badmouthing of leave voters.
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It is factually correct, people of lower intelligence voted to Leave. I'm not going to change what I say because you don't like the truth.
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We have always been able to make our own laws and appears that we opted out of the ones we didnt want above. Seems like a down right poor reason to wreck our economy and make the majority worse off.
No you are wrong the average intelligence of those that voted leave was lower.
That's a completely different thing to saying 'people of lower intelligence voted to Leave'
That you fail to understand the important distinction here is an indication that maybe you were one of the outliers in the remain camp?
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So what are some intelligent reasons to have supported Leave then, change my mind
40-50 Leave
The complete refusal by the EU to negotiate with Cameron which led to the referendum and their inflexibility during the post-vote period only serves to reinforce why we need to get out.
The EU are apparently willing to seriously damage their economic stability purely to 'punish' the UK for daring to vote out, rather than work with the UK to come to an agreement beneficial to both parties.
I understand why they're doing it - if the UK leave and the promised plague of locusts doesn't materialise, then other countries who are currently disadvantaged by their membership will be encouraged to leave and the political gravy train will hit the buffers
The complete refusal by the EU to negotiate with Cameron which led to the referendum and their inflexibility during the post-vote period only serves to reinforce why we need to get out.
The EU are apparently willing to seriously damage their economic stability purely to 'punish' the UK for daring to vote out, rather than work with the UK to come to an agreement beneficial to both parties.
I understand why they're doing it - if the UK leave and the promised plague of locusts doesn't materialise, then other countries who are currently disadvantaged by their membership will be encouraged to leave and the political gravy train will hit the buffers
Sadly highly unlikely to happen, To many MPs form both major parties have said they accept the result of the referendum to vote against it and overturn it.
It doesn't matter, they can be as thick as pig ****. But as long as they have a vote you have to at least appear to respect them and find argument that will appeal to them on their level. Insulting them will only further entrench them in their beliefs.
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Heh.
Attack the poster when you can't attack the argument.
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Not when they refuse to listen I won't and this isn't because of me either. They are given facts and truths and they ignore them every single time. They choose instead to tank the economy and cause uncertainty for millions of younger people whose future is now uncertain. I will absolutely react in this way when my future has been taken away from me as now looks the case with No Deal.
I dont think there is any chance I can change your mind. I have already provided three reasons which could be considered in favour of leaving.... I could easily do the same for factors to consider for remaining in the EU..... So I might have some chance of coming to a reasoned decision.... Rather then just making silly assertions about there being 'no logical reasons' to leave the EU.
When the poster is on the blob and shows no sign of quitting his incessant whinging there are few alternatives.
Anyway for me 40-50 voted remain in 2016 but now the result is in think that it's probably the least damaging path, in the longer run, to leave the EU.
I expect the shorter to medium term consequence of leaving the EU to almost universally be to the countries detriment as a whole.
I expect the shorter to medium term consequence of leaving the EU to almost universally be to the countries detriment as a whole.
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I will respond to them.
This just isn't the case though. http://lawyers-inforbritain.uk/b-m-a/can-the-uk-control-its-borders-if-it-remains-in-the-eu/
It's a fascinating site, it's from a legal perspective.
I don't see why this is or isn't a reason to leave. Can you clarify?
We have an unelected HoL that we didn't vote for. They can pass laws. In the EU laws cannot be passed unless all the member states agree and so does the EU Parliament. The EU is more democratic than the UK.
Regardless, the UK has been outvoted I think ~5% of the time, so 95% of the time we were on the winning side. How often do laws you want get passed by Parliament?
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As I said, attack the poster when you cannot attack the argument.
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