GPU Upgrade - 1080TI or RTX 2080

theufnk007

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All other PC specs are fine, but am running 970 SLI for a number of years, was waiting for benchmarks of the new 2080 cards before deciding, the problem is it's a tricky decision.

2nd hand 1080TI's can be had for £450 - £500 now as the cost of RTX 2080 is around £750 so a £250 difference.

I game on 120hz 3440 x 1440 panel to help you 'advise' me.

I am not really considering the RTX 2080TI due to the £1000+ price tag.

HELP!

Lea x
 
Well I think most reviews have shown the 2080 to be around 10% faster than the 1080ti for standard non RT games.
Obviously the big thing with the 20 series is the whole ray tracing stuff but as we have not seen anything that's not come directly from Nvidia I wouldn't invest based on that right now.
Perhaps hold out until more is known about its ray tracing oerfoperfor first?
 
Thanks for the replies, yeah it's just whether then 10% is worth £250-£300 at the mo? I mean I could go RTX 2080 for Ray Tracing, but so few games currently support it and yes more will as the years roll on, but currently only a handful do.

The tech is cool no doubt, I suppose it's whether I drop £450 vs £750 for similar numbers (currently) - I understand moving forwards and possibly in the next two / three years I will upgrade my card again?

More people chime in so i can decide :-)

Lea x
 
I thought the gap was even smaller than that with some games even preferring the 1080Ti? From memory the performance of the 2080 using ray tracing would not be brilliant, i would imagine in most circumstances turning on ray tracing would not be worth the performance hit even with the 2080 Ti. No doubt nVidia will improve on this with subsequent generations, so maybe in 1-2 generations time it will only give a ~20% performance penalty.

I would stick with the 1080Ti if buying today, if the prices were at their MSRP then either choice would be good. You could wait until the board partners release their own versions and see what their prices look like then but I don't know when that will be.
 
Its more than 10% faster it depends on the game also new games that will be coming out will be for the RTX cards and even know at the start the GTX cards will run them but not at max settings and it will come a time that only RTX cards will be able to run the latest games but as the card you have now is old I would just go with the GTX 1080 Ti or GTX 1080 for now and in a few years get a new build with the RTX cards as to what card to get this one seems to be getting the highest clock speeds
 
I tend to think of the cost over the next 2 or 3 years assuming you'll keep it that long and so that extra cost will be spread. Maybe RTX won't be supported by every game but there are other uses of the Tensor cores for things like DLSS to offload the AA which could have bigger benefits or even clever AI.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-dlss-explained-nvidia-ngx/

Gamers Nexus have NVLink benchmarks up already. It's appears slightly better than SLI but with the usual problems of delayed support or dropped performance in the worst case but you're well aware of that situation.

If I was looking at SLI then I wouldn't and would suck it up and buy a 2080Ti :)

I also had 2 x 970 before I replaced them with a single 980 Ti which was the first time I bought a top tier GPU.
 
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Resistance said:
Its more than 10% faster it depends on the game also new games that will be coming out will be for the RTX cards and even know at the start the GTX cards will run them but not at max settings and it will come a time that only RTX cards will be able to run the latest games but as the card you have now is old I would just go with the GTX 1080 Ti or GTX 1080 for now and in a few years get a new build with the RTX cards as to what card to get this one seems to be getting the highest clock speeds
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Hardware Unboxed has it at 1% faster on average at 1440p & 4k across their 30+ game benchmark.

That doesn't mean it will remain just 1% faster in the future with updated drivers/newer games but it's not likely to change much, especially for older games
 
Reeve said:
Hardware Unboxed has it at 1% faster on average at 1440p & 4k across their 30+ game benchmark.

That doesn't mean it will remain just 1% faster in the future with updated drivers/newer games but it's not likely to change much, especially for older games
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1%?? your % is far to low
 
Resistance said:
1%?? your % is far to low
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Please show the sources for the 10% difference in results. Also bear in mind that the 2080 comes with a factory overclock, comparing it to a 1080Ti FE might not be a fair comparison.
 
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theufnk007 said:
Thanks for the replies, yeah it's just whether then 10% is worth £250-£300 at the mo? I mean I could go RTX 2080 for Ray Tracing, but so few games currently support it and yes more will as the years roll on, but currently only a handful do.

The tech is cool no doubt, I suppose it's whether I drop £450 vs £750 for similar numbers (currently) - I understand moving forwards and possibly in the next two / three years I will upgrade my card again?

More people chime in so i can decide :)

Lea x
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Just going off your numbers....

If you are looking at £250-£300 on a promise then that is a lot to risk for "just in case". I reckon that NVidia have a lot riding on this RTX with these first gen cards and need this to work more than they did with Hairworks a while back, then they could lock out AMD and milk us for a very long time. If that does happen then perhaps RT might be more relevant on their second Gen cards, rather than these first Gen.
I do not see any other compelling reasons to consider a 2080 over a 1080Ti on what I know, especially on your numbers.

You know the types of games that you play at that UW resolution and how demanding they are, as well as how much cash that you have to spend on your hardware changes.

If you could grab a decent 1080Ti for the price you note that I would jump at that and offset some of that cost by selling both of your 970's, unless you have other reasons for keeping them.
 
Thanks people for the replies, mind made up - am going to sell the 970's for around £130 each - managed to get a 1080TI complete with waterblock for £450 and will overclock as well.

Will see me through 2-3 years at which point I will do a full system upgrade.

Thanks guys your the best.

Lea x
 
I thought I might upgrade to the 2080Ti myself from a 1080Ti and then saw the price especially as I'd like to stick to an Asus Strix like my current one. Definitely not worth that modest increase to me until the extra features have been implemented more widely.
 
Resistance said:
Its more than 10% faster it depends on the game also new games that will be coming out will be for the RTX cards and even know at the start the GTX cards will run them but not at max settings and it will come a time that only RTX cards will be able to run the latest games but as the card you have now is old I would just go with the GTX 1080 Ti or GTX 1080 for now and in a few years get a new build with the RTX cards as to what card to get this one seems to be getting the highest clock speeds
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You still haven't given a source for this information, which I was hoping you'd do.
 
Resistance you must be smoking something if you think the 2080 is 10% faster than the 1080ti. It's basically a dead heat between them, not one is better than the other for rasterized gaming.
 
In most titles the 2080 is up to 9% faster than the 1080ti but then in a small number of titles the 1080ti is a couple of percent faster. Check out Jayz2Cents video on the RTX benchmarks.
They are so close that basing a purchase between a 2080 and 1080ti on performance values is almost irrelevant, if you buy a 2080 now you are spending £200-£250 for the potential benefits that Nvidia said will be available at a later date.
 
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