Cockblocked by co-worker

I like you think women are either into someone or not into someone, as if it's an insurmountable wall, you can create attraction based on saying and doing things which will change how women feel about you. Social groups are incredibly powerful to women, women wouldn't wish to be isolated socially at work, they need their support networks - that's probably the case here. It might not be that the girl doesn't like the OP, just that she doesn't wish to risk being bullied/isolated at work by going out with him, this is a situation that can be overcome with the correct words and actions. It was entirely obvious that you've had little experience attracting women because you have no clue what you're talking about. Also she didn't say no when he asked her out, she said she was busy.

You can ask a girl out once a week for years without being obsessive..

The obsessive part of it comes from, thinking about it constantly, posting about it on forums, and starting to believe another person is the cause of your problems.
 
Haha, you guys. Nothing beats good ole' British humour. Something sadly lacking in Hong Kong.

People at work think I made Tracy cry, she is telling anyone that would listen god knows what. In the meantime, I'm just trying to keep my head down without letting the situation escalate.

The problem isn't so much Jen anymore, it's that I've never had someone go out of their way to make me look bad. Almost surreal, really.
 
What did you say/do before she started crying?
Aye, there must be more to this.

If you genuinely haven’t done anything and she really is going behind your back and bad mouthing you to all your colleagues it’s almost at the point for me where you need to speak to HR to protect yourself.
 
We were talking about politics, she definitely sits on the left side of the spectrum, I said something in jest, something like Donald Trump is my daddy and she just started crying.
 
Aye, there must be more to this.

If you genuinely haven’t done anything and she really is going behind your back and bad mouthing you to all your colleagues it’s almost at the point for me where you need to speak to HR to protect yourself.

HR won’t protect him, just the company.
 
Which is a polite way of saying "no" unless it's followed with a counter-offer.

"Do you want to go out on Friday?"

"I'm busy on Friday" - this is a polite no.

"I'm busy this Friday, how about next Friday?" - this is a yes.

"I'm busy" once might (but probably isn't) be a failure of communication when a person really is busy on that particular day, but 3 times definitely isn't. That's a definite "no". Not today, not next week, not at all.

If anyone needs any of this explaining to them then they are seriously socially underdeveloped.

Do you think that your “yes” example may be a touch patronising for instance?
 
I'd tell HR that she grabbed your **** as you were leaving work, you told her no and she got upset, then I'd be saying that it stopped for a while but she's at it again so you'd like to make a complaint about her ;)
 
Psych major with issues, oh the irony.

She's playing you two against each other. only way to win is to not play at all.
Be civil and move forward, keep yourself occupied with something outside of work.
Trust me it'll drive her nuts not having an effect on you.

Or as my father would say, give someone enough rope they'll hang themselves.
 
If anyone needs any of this explaining to them then they are seriously socially underdeveloped.

More than "seriously socially underdeveloped", I think. I'm so unsociable that my littery fantasy is my own private island, population just me, and I'm the one doing the explaining!

Do you think that your “yes” example may be a touch patronising for instance?

No. Why?
 
We were talking about politics, she definitely sits on the left side of the spectrum, I said something in jest, something like Donald Trump is my daddy and she just started crying.

And what was that in response to?

I mean you've not given any details here... suppose she'd said "I think there is a real risk of Row vs Wade being reversed since Trump has stacked the Supreme Court in his favour" and you'd said "LOL Donald Trump is my daddy" then maybe the topic, in this example abortion, is something sensitive for her

next convo with the other female is "I've only just got over the trauma of my abortion, I can't believe how insensitive that douchebag is" etc..

You seem to be oblivious to or ignoring the actual details here, perhaps you've even forgotten what was discussed now. I'm going to assume that it was something that she cared about and I'll definitely assume that it would be very easy for a response like "Donald Trump is my daddy" if she felt the issue she was discussing was serious could be used to make you look really bad to the other girl(s).
 
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Which is a polite way of saying "no" unless it's followed with a counter-offer.

"Do you want to go out on Friday?"

"I'm busy on Friday" - this is a polite no.

"I'm busy this Friday, how about next Friday?" - this is a yes.

"I'm busy" once might (but probably isn't) be a failure of communication when a person really is busy on that particular day, but 3 times definitely isn't. That's a definite "no". Not today, not next week, not at all.

It's nice that you've got the full transcript available to tell the OP that he should definitely not pursue because she's clearly not interested, despite the fact that what we do know is they got on really well and she gave off signs that she almost certainly liked him at one point.


What people here may not understand is that it's better to run with the assumption that a girl likes you and be wrong, than run with the assumption that she doesn't like you when in fact she does. In the former all that happens is that you get rejected or look a bit silly, in the latter you miss an opportunity that you might regret.
 
TBH you need to give less of a ****. Even if you did make her cry, whatever.

Don't mess around at work anyway. Keep it pro. Because one day you might get a feminazi boss and they will side with them, logic will not apply.
 
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And what was that in response to?

I mean you've not given any details here... suppose she'd said "I think there is a real risk of Row vs Wade being reversed since Trump has stacked the Supreme Court in his favour" and you'd said "LOL Donald Trump is my daddy" then maybe the topic, in this example abortion, is something sensitive for her

next convo with the other female is "I've only just got over the trauma of my abortion, I can't believe how insensitive that douchebag is" etc..

You seem to be oblivious to or ignoring the actual details here, perhaps you've even forgotten what was discussed now. I'm going to assume that it was something that she cared about and I'll definitely assume that it would be very easy for a response like "Donald Trump is my daddy" if she felt the issue she was discussing was serious could be used to make you look really bad to the other girl(s).

PLOT TWIST: Donald Trump is actually her daddy.
 
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