Do you like where technology is taking society?

Like many on this forum I was an early adopter of technology.

A hand axe made by a pre-human ancestor is technology. Stitching treated animal skins together to make clothing involves multiple technologies.

Personally I look forward to the day I can plug my head straight into the internet.
 
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I'm really happy more people are finally waking up to all this stuff I've been banging on about for the past decade or so. Sadly its too late now its now become established. Even the latest privacy protection initiatives are simply privacy erosion initiatives because they simply force people to opt into having all data milked for any purposes lol. Too many people are being brainwashed every minute of the day.
 
Tech is great.

Tech in the hands of facebook, amazon, apple google, twitter etc is worryingly bad.

All the hidden profiling that goes on in the name of service when it all about revenue generation. I have no trust in any large scale corporation these days. It should not be the norm.

The idea of a alexa, google home constantly listening is just bonkers.


I agree with this, it is not the technology that is the problem but the uses some companies are putting it to that is.
 
Society will be, and is being, mind controlled into wanting a full surveillance police state, mainly under the guise of personal safety. Divide and conquer etc.
 
Also, I have a problem with the trend of everything being connected. I really struggle to see the point of controlling my house lights via an app or by shouting at a box in the corner (also logging my data for sale).
Why must I want to have my fridge, toaster or even my toilet connected to the internet? What is there to gain from it?

It's like someone watched Red Dwarf and thought, 'you know that talkie toaster, that's a great idea! '

The drive towards complete connectivity isn't a positive as I see it
 
Also, I have a problem with the trend of everything being connected. I really struggle to see the point of controlling my house lights via an app or by shouting at a box in the corner (also logging my data for sale).
Why must I want to have my fridge, toaster or even my toilet connected to the internet? What is there to gain from it?

It's like someone watched Red Dwarf and thought, 'you know that talkie toaster, that's a great idea! '

The drive towards complete connectivity isn't a positive as I see it
Voice controlled lights are brilliant just because you don't see a use for them doesn't mean there isn't one.
 
Also, I have a problem with the trend of everything being connected. I really struggle to see the point of controlling my house lights via an app or by shouting at a box in the corner (also logging my data for sale).
Why must I want to have my fridge, toaster or even my toilet connected to the internet? What is there to gain from it?

It's like someone watched Red Dwarf and thought, 'you know that talkie toaster, that's a great idea! '

The drive towards complete connectivity isn't a positive as I see it

You don't have to, one of my friend's dad still write himself a cheque made payable to CASH and then go to the counter to get money out of his account. He doesn't use debit cards.

I mean how far do you want to take it?
 
I don't think the question should be about the technology as that will continue to improve as time goes along. I think the problem is the way people think about it.

The people who were born before technology became 'mainstream' appreciated a world were we had to do everything manually. We had to struggle and appreciated what we got from it. But the people today were computers have always been around have less of a struggle and just accept it as a matter of fact. They don't really see the big danger of technology. An example is how people get all angry if someone is filming them in public, yet at home their privacy is being invaded constantly and they never say anything about that.

I don't like how business people have mostly taken over the computing world. Computing in the early days was about expressing yourself and helping others have an enjoyable experience. These days business men are monitizing everything and expanding old ideas to hold vast amounts of sensitive information with very little security. Banks and other massive organisations are being hacked all the time yet the security is never improved because creativity as not been allowed to thrive like it used to be.

I think making an easy life for some people means they don't always appreciate that life. An example I just watched one of the new challenges recently on youtube were kids are drinking bottles of listerine for views. Apart from their obvious stupidity it shows how much lazy thinking goes on these days. I can't remember at any age thinking that drinking a bottle of listerine would be a good idea. I think it shows the emotional desperation of some of the young people today that they feel they have to do that.
 
I think making an easy life for some people means they don't always appreciate that life. An example I just watched one of the new challenges recently on youtube were kids are drinking bottles of listerine for views. Apart from their obvious stupidity it shows how much lazy thinking goes on these days. I can't remember at any age thinking that drinking a bottle of listerine would be a good idea. I think it shows the emotional desperation of some of the young people today that they feel they have to do that.

I don't agree with this at all, I've heard enough stories from my dad and granddad to know people did as much stupid stuff back then as they do now. There just wasn't anyone around to record it. They were still doing it for attention but just not attention from the internet.
 
the thing i worry about is the difference in percieved liberties when applied either digitally or in real life, it seems that what would never be accepted as allowable by society in terms of infringing things like privacy is perfectly acceptable now if you apply it to the internet.

the same goes with freedom of speech, for example if chatting to a few mates on a private discord channel it shouldn't be joke worthy to talk about ending up on a "list" just because the content of the conversation (and primarily it's humour) passes beyond the boundaries of the politically correct.

it also worries me that there's an increased amount of "you can't say that" or "you shouldn't say that" when talking about sensitive subject, which imo is wrong, if you disagree then fine disagree and offer a counter argument, but don't force someone else to have to self-censor just because you don't like their opinions or choice of humour.
 
I don't like the rampant narcasissm of 'social' media and how ubiquitous it has become.
It's so isolating and damaging for young people especially.
Likes do not equal worth or value.

This is pretty much the only bit of modern technology i hate. I wish Facebook and Twitter dissappear overnight , the world will be a claimer and happier place within a week
 
What I think many don't realise is that the people running totalitarian governments, or dictators, don't see themselves as bad people doing bad things. They see themselves as good people doing the right thing for society. Only in hindsight are the warnings realised. There is a scene from a film I watched with my parents in my youth which always sticks in my mind. The film is called Cabaret and it's set in Germany during the rise to power of the Nazis. It's a tremendous film in its' own right but the spine chilling scene is a young brown shirt who starts singing "Tomorrow belongs to me" in a beer garden. Gradually the rest of the crowd get to their feet to join the brown shirt in song. By the end of it the whole beer garden is joined in unison. But in one corner, still seated and shaking his head, is an old man. He's lived his life and seen this before. he knows what's coming. He knows it's not good. But he knows that most others there are too young and inexperienced to realise it. They just all think they are doing the right thing.

I remember that film well. But the scene that sticks with me post personally is where Liza Minelli's character gives advice to her friend about this woman who keeps rejecting his advances. She advises him to rape her. Later that same woman unknowingly comes to her for advice because LIza's character is "more experienced". The woman was a virgin, had never had a sexual experience and wants to know if what she experienced was just how sex feels or if it means something more. And Liza's character tells her that it must mean she's attracted to the man and wants him. Basically she lies. It's a scene I found supremely upsetting.
 
The technology that worries me the most is AI as it will contribute to mass unemployment at the same time as there will be huge population migrations from Africa and India to Europe due to global warming making huge areas of those land masses largely un-inhabitable.

I personally think western liberal democracies are now totally ****ed between that and deep-fake technology meaning the public just won’t know the truth (possibly a good thing if it’s governments using it to pull the wool over the populace’s eyes!) when they are bombarded by it from all quarters. It’s bad enough as it is now.

Maybe hooking up to the Matrix wouldn’t be such a bad thing.
 
I personally think western liberal democracies are now totally ****ed between that and deep-fake technology meaning the public just won’t know the truth (possibly a good thing if it’s governments using it to pull the wool over the populace’s eyes!) when they are bombarded by it from all quarters. It’s bad enough as it is now.

You might think that faced with two contradictory pieces of information, people would not know what to believe. But that's where making sure yours is the only source of information they have comes in. The EU passed a resolution a couple of years ago to set up a body with the goal of limiting access to foreign news sources.
 
I like technology, but I don't like how much its taken over people's every day life's.

As someone said above, I'm pleased I grew up in a time (late 80s/90s) when mobile phones, social media was not much of a thing.
 
I like technology, but I don't like how much its taken over people's every day life's.

As someone said above, I'm pleased I grew up in a time (late 80s/90s) when mobile phones, social media was not much of a thing.

Same.

Wonder what these insta-babes would do without cameras tho? :confused:
 
I don't like the rampant narcasissm of 'social' media and how ubiquitous it has become.
It's so isolating and damaging for young people especially.
Likes do not equal worth or value.

Totally agree.

Ultimately, I think all this stuff is making us lazy - it boggles my mind people buy an "assistant" so they can turn the lights on and off by talking to it, you have to walk past the switch as you walk in/out of the room! I just don't get it.

If it carries on the humans will become the robots - you'll get up when the AI turns on the lights and tells you to do so, you'll dress in the clothes it got from the wardrobe, it will drive you to work, where you'll mostly sit in front of a screen, responding to information the tech shows you. Then, it'll drive you home, you'll eat the meal it provides you (and automatically re-orders from your supermarket). After that you'll sit down in front of the TV where it will show you programs it has decided you'll like, before heading to bed at the predetermined time for you to get 8 hours sleep. A few times a week it will tell you that you need to exercise and will provide a plan for you to do so.

The older I get the more I think I'd be happier in the past!
 
Totally agree.

Ultimately, I think all this stuff is making us lazy - it boggles my mind people buy an "assistant" so they can turn the lights on and off by talking to it, you have to walk past the switch as you walk in/out of the room! I just don't get it.

Absolutely this.

It just boggles the mind why someone is so lazy to not be able to turn their lights on and off lmao. Complete and utter gimmick.

This is how dangerous stuff establishes itself, brain-dead people with no foresight and understanding of the potential future ramifications just lap this crap up because they like to show off or are trying to compensate for some underlying psychological issues. Then the seed is planted.
 
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