Sigh.
I tried ignoring you but you're such a car crash it's impossible so I'll just say this:
Your post is drivel, as always.
Do you like where technology is taking society?
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Sigh.
I tried ignoring you but you're such a car crash it's impossible so I'll just say this:
Your post is drivel, as always.
Also your light switch example is exactly the same as this microchip nonsense.
They sell it now as a convenience thing, and people with poor memory/brain damage are so happy they don't have to memorise keycodes or remember where they left their keys.
It's almost laughable really. Then once the technology is established it's just used for money making and data mining or human elsavement/human farming.
Same thing happened with Facebook, people were all like "omg facebook gets me soo many [fake] friends, I will tell mark everything", while I used to warn about the centralisation of all EPSIS data.
Then it turned out the data is used to design highly effective and targeted propaganda campaigns. To divide people like they've never been divided before.
The rise of Facebook et al was dangerous and anti-social and has provided mechanism for the division of the world, propagated dividing crap to every corner of the world, certainly not liberated it.
Then it turned out the data is used to design highly effective and targeted propaganda campaigns. To divide people like they've never been divided before.
The rise of Facebook et al was dangerous and anti-social and has provided mechanism for the division of the world, propagated dividing crap to every corner of the world, certainly not liberated it.
Yeah but Facebook also gives us kitty videos and kitties are so cute so they can have all the epillepsis data they want <3
Exactly, it keeps people connected with old school friends, friends and relatives across the world etc.. it is potentially an excellent future resource for historians or people interested in their ancestry etc...
I think the worst people can come up with us along the lines of “herp derp Cambridge Analytica” when they have little understanding of what was actually done.
You’ve also got a heck of a lot of control over your profile, can adjust privacy settings, lock down your pics to friends only or even a subset of friends. No one is forced to “like” or follow various external pages... you don’t even need to post a profile pic, you can just have a profile with no information other than your name made public and just use it to add friends and keep in contact.
Personally I don’t see the big deal in having targeted adverts, “oh no I will see adverts that are more relevant to me” it does amuse me though to see the more crazy types in our society getting all bent out of shape over this stuff. I’ve seen it in a few groups where say a whatsapp or Facebook group is deemed to be the method for communicating, every so often some chump pipes up that they’re not on Facebook and seemingly they don’t want to even set up a basic account with a throwaway e-mail that they can later delete because they’re so paranoid.
Don’t even get me started on the irony of people who post on this forum (a form of social media) then moan about social media... Facebook will age far stricter privacy controls/auditing re: acceding your data than any here covering the volunteer mod team. Not that I have a big issue with either.
It depends what sort of entity is in control. If it's a philosophically minded person fuelled by humanity, honesty, fairness and common good, is in control, then I guess the result could be something good....
Unfortunately, you are right, technology currently is the enslavement of people.
It's more likely that the people in control will be complete psychopaths fuelled by greed, personal underlying issues, and psychological defence mechanisms.
Just look at who is in control of Facebook as an example, I am shocked at why anyone in their right mind uses facebook et al. I mean why cant we just use a simple two way communication method designed by some honest non-greedy developer??? Why does everyone just hop onto facebook and let them harvest everything being communicated by everyone and generate billions from OUR data. It all falls back to the same thing, braindead people and sheeple who cannot think and have no foresight.
Just look at iPlayer, as another example, they now want people's gender, date of birth, and postcode. If most people weren't brain-dead then they simply would have refused to use iPlayer for a couple weeks and then they would have no choice but to reverse their data collection initiative which may be used to better tailor future propaganda.
But most people are brain-dead and don't think about the future ramifications, they don't watch TV for any real insight into things, they just want to be fed programming in the dumbest and laziest possible way, so they simply entered the information requested and now BBC wins and everyone else loses.
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The two big negatives in my opinion are social media and the amount of personal data that large corporations hold. I use social media but I probably wouldn't care if it suddenly disappeared tomorrow, in my opinion it adds very little to society. The only part of it I find useful is messenger, it's really handy when organising things between large groups of people (group holidays, nights out, etc) and is a good way of quickly getting in contact with someone. I think that social media is going to have a profoundly negative effect on younger generations in a way that we don't yet fully grasp. I've noticed myself that if I'm feeling glum or having a bit of a boring week/month I feel more down after browsing Instagram, seeing all the idealised representations of people's lives. Also, social media has given a voice to all kinds of morons who don't deserve one. Twitter just seems like a cesspit for bigots, racists, narcissists, etc, I've never seen the appeal of it.
The personal data aspect only annoys me in the sense that corporations hold that information so that they can target us with more specific adverts in an attempt to sell us more. I'm not too bothered about what a lot of the OP mentioned, most location services can be switched off, CCTV is there to catch people committing crimes and I couldn't care less if I'm recorded going about my normal day-to-day life, it's pretty mundane and I've got nothing to hide. There are loads of checks and balances in place to prevent the UK govt. from ever turning into a totalitarian regime. Personally I'm happy to trade a bit of privacy and anonymity if it helps prevent crimes and things like terrorist attacks.
The personal data aspect only annoys me in the sense that corporations hold that information so that they can target us with more specific adverts in an attempt to sell us more. I'm not too bothered about what a lot of the OP mentioned, most location services can be switched off, CCTV is there to catch people committing crimes and I couldn't care less if I'm recorded going about my normal day-to-day life, it's pretty mundane and I've got nothing to hide. There are loads of checks and balances in place to prevent the UK govt. from ever turning into a totalitarian regime. Personally I'm happy to trade a bit of privacy and anonymity if it helps prevent crimes and things like terrorist attacks.
Wow just saw the post earlier...
Just goes to show how little value people put on their data, I mean people think their data is worth fully relinquishing for some cat pictures
and that's how one guy has managed to run to the bank with billions generated from said data while everyone thinks they're just being given cat pictures.
They don't understand that things like how long you look at a particular cat, and even WHERE you look is being monitored and collected.
Just goes to show how little value people put on their data, I mean people think their data is worth fully relinquishing for some cat pictures
and that's how one guy has managed to run to the bank with billions generated from said data while everyone thinks they're just being given cat pictures.They don't understand that things like how long you look at a particular cat, and even WHERE you look is being monitored and collected.
Its quite clearly been proven you do not have control over how the information on your facebook profile is used. When the whole cambridge analytic thing came about what did facebook do ? they said "oopsie, sorry we promise not to do it again" and that was it. All it means is they'll hide it better next time.
I think there is at least some evidence of social media being used dishonestly for political gain. The problem is that there is so much false information flying around from all corners that its actually impossible to work out what is true and what isn't, so people end up believing whatever sources shout the loudest - history tells us thats been quite dangerous in the past. As someone said society is becoming ever more divided.
Saying facebook is ok because you can send a message to someone you worked with 10 years ago is naive imho.
Imagine what could be done if all this "intelligence" and dissemination of data was used to fight disease, drought, famine and other humanitarian disasters. Yes this does happen but is on a miniscule scale compared to the money making stuff.
Umm, you do realise the companies like CA have access to the data at source, regardless of security settings, right ? and that facebook can track what pages you go to, even if you aren't logged in to facebook at the time ? you don't even need an account to be tracked.
Not posting a profile picture has bugger all to do with what we're talking about.
I think there is at least some evidence of social media being used dishonestly for political gain. The problem is that there is so much false information flying around from all corners that its actually impossible to work out what is true and what isn't, so people end up believing whatever sources shout the loudest - history tells us thats been quite dangerous in the past. As someone said society is becoming ever more divided.
Saying facebook is ok because you can send a message to someone you worked with 10 years ago is naive imho.
Imagine what could be done if all this "intelligence" and dissemination of data was used to fight disease, drought, famine and other humanitarian disasters. Yes this does happen but is on a miniscule scale compared to the money making stuff.
Umm, you do realise the companies like CA have access to the data at source, regardless of security settings, right ? and that facebook can track what pages you go to, even if you aren't logged in to facebook at the time ? you don't even need an account to be tracked.
Not posting a profile picture has bugger all to do with what we're talking about.
Wow just saw the post earlier...
Just goes to show how little value people put on their data, I mean people think their data is worth fully relinquishing for some cat pictures
They don't understand that things like how long you look at a particular cat, and even WHERE you look is being monitored and collected.
Because it is worthless, i could buy your data for literally $0.0005 if all i wanted was where you were. The real value is in the group.
I really couldn't give a **** if someone knew everything about me, i'm not that insecure to feel the need to be "private", it's farcically moronic to try and keep a hold of something you never had.
Lets be honest, everything has been monitored since the days of the landline telephone. I dont know why people are acting like it's something new over the past few years when its been going on for decades. All your utilities bills, you think the data on those are kept away locked safe!?!?!
It peoples selfish acts which leads to companies taking their privacy because its more important to broadcast how wonderful their life is with a bucket load of photos to show off.
It peoples selfish acts which leads to companies taking their privacy because its more important to broadcast how wonderful their life is with a bucket load of photos to show off.
Telephones were tapped for monitoring criminals weren't they? Not for building advertisement profiles and generating EPSIS data. Two separate things unless you think there used to be guys sitting there monitoring ALL telephone calls and manually entering EPSIS data into a database?
The computer algorithms analyse ALL communications and generate EPSIS data from every single word entered. This is on a worldwide scale, not just limited to criminals.
Specifically what data are you referring to? They have the original survey data that the respondents were paid for, that is separate to Facebook though. If you liked public pages then yes they had access to that public data, they also made use of your friends list to see what pages they liked. If you didn’t like any pages then CA has pretty much nothing to go on, your profile wouldn’t be too useful.
Now filled with angry old men pretty much from when it opens until it closes, unless it's a poopy Spoons, in which case filled with hangover'd students and tourists as well. What a lovely meeting place eh...
Then you have your football pubs which practically alienate everyone who doesn't give a **** and doesn't want to get bottled.
Technology didn't kill the pubs, it's clientele did.
I don’t think you’d be welcomed in any drinking establishment, regardless of era. If people still went to pubs you’d be the pub bore everybody avoided. An angry little neck beard, bitter well before his years.
