Ah, that's ok then, if the European Army isn't being suggested, then everyone can ignore my questions as they aren't needed to be answered. Many thanks !
A random proper source appears! Gratitude intensifies!
Still, it's nothing at the moment. I'll start paying attention when pen gets put to paper.
One potential point of having a purely EU army would be...........get ready for the tin-foil hats.............controlling any EU internal decent should it ever need to, which is something neither a single nation nor NATO would ever be able to do. Now thats just one plausible reason to have an EU army alongside dozens of much more palatable ones so while the chances of that very specific use are tiny it does still exist.
There was a very good "Tom Clancy style" novel written in 1993 (as the EU came into law) by Larry Bond called Cauldron which has the following synopsis and gives a "worst case" scenario for an EU Army -
Now considering that written in 1993 thats a very remarkable amount of foreshadowing to what we see today.
If you go back to during the Brexit referendum campaign Nick Clegg and co. were branding Brexiteers who talked about the plans for an EU-wide army conspiracy theorists and dangerous fantasists.
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Damn...
Can I perhaps have the New Model European Army, then?
I bet tensions with Russia will improve once there's a United European Army on their border /s
EU is dying they need boots to control it's slavessIf you go back to during the Brexit referendum campaign Nick Clegg and co. were branding Brexiteers who talked about the plans for an EU-wide army conspiracy theorists and dangerous fantasists.
Why don't the EU nations just pay 2% into NATO and properly fulfil their obligations to the US? it has kept Europe safe since the end of WW2 and there's only something like 2-3 countries who pay the full 2% of GDP. I suppose it's more of a case that they need jackboots now that they've got half of eastern Europe telling them where to stick their anti-democratic/anti-nation state dictats, dismiss the will of the people as 'populism' at their own peril.
I guess the question out of my list that I am most interested in, is the one regarding the EU and our membership, would we be included in the European Army once brexit goes through and do you think they might ask us to pay more into the European Army (as a non EU member). Or for that matter, would we even want to be in the European Army, I'm assuming that we would really. Or perhaps membership to NATO is sufficient for our needs?
No need we are fully paid up member of Nato are forces are world class and envied by the world.Given the tories slash 'n' burn approach to our armed forces I can't see us being in a fit state militarily to contribute anything to an EU army other than a token gesture of a few tanks & troops, that's presuming of course the tories don't wield the axe again & cut the armed forces even more than they all ready have, which I fully expect them to some time in the not too distant future.
It depends what you want. If you want a meaningfully collective security mechanism for the EU, you basically need a quick reaction force made up of forces from different countries training together and ready to deploy into active combat together. If we want to be properly secure we need to work together with other navies. Etc.