This is pretty much one of my first comments about how I've given up voting for any party, all the political parties promise the earth and when voted in conveniently forget what they said they would do.
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This is pretty much one of my first comments about how I've given up voting for any party, all the political parties promise the earth and when voted in conveniently forget what they said they would do.
Yes and no - I realised 3-4 years back it's so broken there is no point caring too much but at the same time I will still debate it. It was interesting talking to some of the younger lads at work about it recently as they have both a typical ignorance of politics that most have at that age but also even then still recognising that this country politically isn't really working and completely disconnected from their actual lives.
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This is my position.
We need a Labour Government and fast, the Tories are destroying the very fabric of our society.
This is something I fear would go overlooked by so many people right now if there was an GE tomorrow. The noise of Brexit and the infestation in the Conservative party, the loud shouting that they will do would probably give them the edge and people will just hear that. No consideration to all the other things that they damage.
As a public sector worker I see it first hand, I see it 2nd hand in education daily. I've seen it, very sadly, in adult social care and mental health care the past couple of years. It's appalling.
Technically from a bigger family perspective the Tory policies would probably be financially better for us in the long run, but you know not being completely morally corrupt the financial gains don't really outweighing the above issues massively.
Problem this country has Gigabit, is even with the mess we are in, which is ENTIRELY due to the Cons, and scathing reports from the UN you can see in the poll above nearly 50% will still vote for them!
They must yearn for the days of forelock tugging and workhouses.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...-may/news/99922/united-nations-report-accuses
They must yearn for the days of forelock tugging and workhouses.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...-may/news/99922/united-nations-report-accuses
Agreed. The whole thing about tax havens really boils my ****.
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The owner of the DM is a tax avoider.
And the Daily Telegraph.
And The Sun...
The best thing we can do as a country is to do the opposite of what they say, which means voting in a Corbyn Labour Government.
Honestly though especially with Momentum in any semblance of being able to inflruence the driving seat Labour ultimately won't offer anything different in that regard - don't believe me? look closer at the goings on behind people like Jared O'Mara - that collective is as full of corrupt and nasty people as the Tories never mind my misgivings about Corbyn and McDonnell.
While I get why people would vote for Labour typified - I can't get my head around why any sane, rational, person would vote for Labour on their current trajectory (mind you I think the same about the Tories post 2010) when it comes to radical politics a leopard rarely changes its spots just becomes more sophisticated at presenting an acceptable image that draws people in.
The best thing we could do as a country is vote for anything but Tory, Labour or Lib Dem - how long does it take for a country to say enough is enough?
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43% of the vote went to them in 2017, when May was riding high, off the back of headlines saying she was the next Thatcher. Every newspaper was supporting her (bar one or two but they certainly won't supporting Labour).
And yet, Corbyn achieved 40% of the vote as well. Something is happening in this country, people are calling out for change. And my God do we need it. The truth is the MSM are TERRIFIED of Corbyn because he is the first PM since Thatcher to actually want to change the system. When you offer people real change, they turn out to vote. And when you tell them that we shouldn't educate our kids properly, that we should destroy the NHS, that we should allow homelessness to increase, that we should allow child poverty to increase, they come out and loudly tell you NO! The MSM don't understand that Corbyn is a breath of fresh air - I really am not joking - and it is not a coincidence that things like Momentum have appeared and that on social media I'm seeing a level of political engagement I've never seen before, primarily from young people.
I hope to God we elect a Corbyn Government next time, we absolutely need it, it is essential. Is he perfect, hell no, he is not. But, I know that his priorities are noble and good for this country and that based on his votes in Parliament, etc. we'd be a much happier country with him in charge.
Bring it on I say, I want change.
I'm a young person, was brought up in an overwhelmingly Tory-supporting household. I was definitely raised in a bubble but then that bubble burst. I wonder if anyone else has had an experience like that? It's quite remarkable when you have to accept what you were told was a lie.
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Because we desperately need change and Labour is the best chance of that.
After that we need voting reform, which I think we will get as the SNP, Lib Dems and Labour will go into a C&S/coalition.
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I'd probably vote labour just to get rid of the shambolic tories but this country really needs some voting reform
It's just constant swapping from one ****show to another between the tories and labour
It's just constant swapping from one ****show to another between the tories and labour
I don't get the blindness (unless it is actually disguised agreement) though towards some of the people rising to power in Labour - people with that kind of past subscription to hard or extreme left ideologies don't suddenly (exceptions aside) become more moderate or pragmatic, etc. it is like with religion - the majority don't suddenly drop their beliefs and many stubbornly cling on to them beyond anything sane or rational. They do however (as is often seen in business) come to a point where they realise that they can't attain their goals by going directly at them but that people can be persuaded by a more gradual approach, easing in changes step by step before people realise how far things have gone while masquerading behind a mask of something more reasonable.
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Honestly I don't feel that I could vote for anyone. Conservatives are too right wing, labour are too left wing, lib Democrats = potato.
British politics is a complete shambles. I think labour and Conservative parties needs to split into hardcore and light versions as the parties are too fractured with to much in fighting.
British politics is a complete shambles. I think labour and Conservative parties needs to split into hardcore and light versions as the parties are too fractured with to much in fighting.
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We cannot carry on as we are, as I said they are not perfect but they are the best chance we having of getting this vile Government out.