Poll: Poll: Voting intention [November 2018]

Who would you vote for if a General Election was held today?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 108 25.1%

  • Labour

    Votes: 127 29.5%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 84 19.5%

  • SNP

    Votes: 15 3.5%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 38 8.8%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 26 6.0%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Other (please comment)

    Votes: 31 7.2%
  • Total voters
    431
Gigabit said:
We cannot carry on as we are, as I said they are not perfect but they are the best chance we having of getting this vile Government out.
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I mean I get that some people would reason that the only hope of change is Labour and that individually people with my viewpoint won't make a difference but I just wish the country as a larger entity could see that we won't get real change until people wholesale stop enabling the current political machine.

EDIT: As an aside I actually subscribe more towards what I think your vision of Labour is though I'm never really sure how deep your allegiances truly lie but I couldn't in any shape or form support people with backgrounds like John McDonnell, etc. I'm probably something like 40% soft left, 40% centre, 20% right wing in my outlook heh.
 
Rroff said:
Honestly though especially with Momentum in any semblance of being able to inflruence the driving seat Labour ultimately won't offer anything different in that regard - don't believe me? look closer at the goings on behind people like Jared O'Mara - that collective is as full of corrupt and nasty people as the Tories never mind my misgivings about Corbyn and McDonnell.

While I get why people would vote for Labour typified - I can't get my head around why any sane, rational, person would vote for Labour on their current trajectory (mind you I think the same about the Tories post 2010) when it comes to radical politics a leopard rarely changes its spots just becomes more sophisticated at presenting an acceptable image that draws people in.



The best thing we could do as a country is vote for anything but Tory, Labour or Lib Dem - how long does it take for a country to say enough is enough?
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Violent uprising pls.
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StriderX said:
Violent uprising pls.
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Not really a fan personally, despite some that probably are fully corrupt, self serving, etc. and don't care if they are damaging the country I think many have good intentions and are passionate about what they believe in even if they would actually cause significant harm in the long run.
 
Rroff said:
Not really a fan personally, despite some that probably are fully corrupt, self serving, etc. and don't care if they are damaging the country I think many have good intentions and are passionate about what they believe in even if they would actually cause significant harm in the long run.
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And unto them we say adieu, for they propagate the corruption by participation and legitimisation. If the greater population doesn't do it, the smug xenophobes will.
 
I'd spoil my ballot. I can't stand any of the major parties. A spoiled ballot is counted in the stats, so it's better than abstaining.
 
In general I am (well I was) split between Labour and the Conservatives, but with Corbyn and Abbott, Labour are now out of the question (I really wish they'd get some credible leadership).
 
Rroff said:
I mean I get that some people would reason that the only hope of change is Labour and that individually people with my viewpoint won't make a difference but I just wish the country as a larger entity could see that we won't get real change until people wholesale stop enabling the current political machine.

EDIT: As an aside I actually subscribe more towards what I think your vision of Labour is though I'm never really sure how deep your allegiances truly lie but I couldn't in any shape or form support people with backgrounds like John McDonnell, etc. I'm probably something like 40% soft left, 40% centre, 20% right wing in my outlook heh.
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The country as a larger entity will keep voting like this until we get the Tories out and show people the alternatives are much better. Things like democratising the media will go towards that.

I think you underestimate the change that will come if Corbyn is elected, all those things you want - PR, etc. - will come after a Corbyn Government is elected.

This will be a change on the scale of Attlee, it will be huge.
 
Gigabit said:
I think you underestimate the change that will come if Corbyn is elected, all those things you want - PR, etc. - will come after a Corbyn Government is elected.
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Corbyn has no interest in weakening his hand - he will grip onto power all the harder if he gets a shot at it - to do otherwise goes against furthering his ideology but he will do so fully under the belief that it is the best thing for the country.
 
Really couldn't say.

Generally speaking I'd go Lib Dem as they most closely match my ideals and despite him never winning, I like the local candidate. But it's such a Tory stronghold that even every non tory voter united behind a single candidate couldn't unseat him without a big upswing in turnout.

Considering that 5 elections running my vote has counted for absolutely nothing I'm fairly apathetic to the whole thing to the point where I'm not even sure it'd be worth the effort to vote anymore unless I fancied a pint on my way to the voting station. Maybe wipe my backside on my ballot. There's always the chance the **** could deface more than just mine and actually count for something.
 
ultralaser said:
Any sources on that?
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https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...06/13/how-britain-voted-2017-general-election

Amongst those with low educational qualifications (defined as GCSE or equivalent or below) the Conservatives beat Labour by 22%. However amongst those with high level educational qualifications (defined as degree-level or above) Labour led by 17 percentage points. Part of this relationship is down to age – the expansion of education means that, on average, the young have more qualifications than the old, although the Conservatives still have a “graduate problem” even after accounting for this.
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Doesn’t mean anything. Education is only the certification of propaganda. Our entire higher education system is polluted. I know because I’ve been through it. The humanities are a breeding ground for illogical nonsense. It’s no wonder these people vote for Labour, they’ve had no life experience outside of the state education system.
 
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