Could/would you drive your car without driver aids

I can - I can drive fairly awkward vehicles upto where you start dealing with really weird clutch and gearing stuff, etc. there I have no natural feel for how it works - when I was younger I had to pull away in more powerful cars that lacked that kind of stuff (V8s, etc.) by more quickly going into higher gears as I was a tad heavy on the accelerator LOL these days I know how to ease the power in and not encounter all those issues with torque steer, etc. hah.

I absolutely wouldn't choose to though.
 
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I do already...daily is an E92 M3 and my weekend toy is a 79 Camaro. The only aid it is is PAS. It can certainly be interesting in the damp going around roundabouts!
 
Scania said:
The first thing I do in my car is turn off the traction control after starting it up, I'm more than capable of driving it in a manner where were it to get out of shape I could
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How is this even worth the bother? How does it actually enhance your driving experience to the point that you find it worthwhile every single journey? I can't remember the last time I saw the traction control activate anyway.
 
I tried turning off the TC/ESC on mine (Stinger) in the wet, and ended up doing a bit of a fishtail up the road under acceleration (nothing else around, dead of night).
It's not the fastest way to travel.

Clearly this needs more practice, but probably not on a public road at first.
 
My old 150hp Yamaha R1 motorbike had no rider aids and had this idiot riding it for 5 years :eek::D
Am still here ;)

Am guessing a lot of people on this forum grew up driving fairly powerful cars that had no driver aids
 
Iamzod said:
You can still get things like lift off oversteer which 95% of the drivers on the road today wouldn't know how to deal with.
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Seen a few instances of lift-off oversteer combined with encountering a slightly moist surface with front wheel drive cars in my time - to be fair not 100% the driver's fault in most cases. (you could do the same thing 1000 times and never encounter it).
 
Iamzod said:
You can still get things like lift off oversteer which 95% of the drivers on the road today wouldn't know how to deal with.
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How controllable it is can be very car dependent too.

I wouldn't choose to drive anything on the road without abs (different if the car doesn't have it) but don't see the drama in trying to drive a powerful car without the aids
 
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If the answer to the question "could you drive your car without driver aids" is no, then you shouldn't be driving.

"would you" is a different matter entirely however.
 
Acme said:
If the answer to the question "could you drive your car without driver aids" is no, then you shouldn't be driving.

"would you" is a different matter entirely however.
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Why.
Plenty of people couldn't stop as effectively in a car without ABS, doesnt mean they shouldn't drive.
It's been a long time since I drove a car without syncros I bet a lot of people wouldn't be able to if you just took syncros away.
 
The question was could you, not could you just as effectively.
I don't think anybody could stop "as effectively" in a car without ABS.

Synchros is stretching the "driver aids" definition a little far I think. Even Dads 1947 MG has synchromesh for all but 1st gear. :p
 
Acme said:
The question was could you, not could you just as effectively.
I don't think anybody could stop "as effectively" in a car without ABS.

Synchros is stretching the "driver aids" definition a little far I think. Even Dads 1947 MG has synchromesh for all but 1st gear. :p
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I'd say a driver aid is anything that isn't necessary for the function of the car.
 
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