Being too Political / Antagonistic

Nitefly

Nitefly

Nitefly

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Hello!

I read this beeb article recently and found it quite moving and indicative of how the internet dehumanises individuals and the subjects they talk about. It’s a about a chap with Down’s syndrome and social media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-45901125

I don’t have to much to say other than I think it’s worth reflecting on and that we don’t always need to raise our views on difficult subjects at all times, just because we have the freedom to. I also think it’s important to see the beauty and merit in simple things without having to resort to being bullish and thinking policitally. A little compassion goes a long way.

Sorry for the crap thread, just wanted to share :)
 
Nitefly said:
Hello!

I read this beeb article recently and found it quite moving and indicative of how the internet dehumanises individuals and the subjects they talk about. It’s a about a chap with Down’s syndrome and social media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-45901125

I don’t have to much to say other than I think it’s worth reflecting on and that we don’t always need to raise our views on difficult subjects at all times, just because we have the freedom to. I also think it’s important to see the beauty and merit in simple things without having to resort to being bullish and thinking policitally. A little compassion goes a long way.

Sorry for the crap thread, just wanted to share :)
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I agree with you, I went through a stage of opening my trap left right and centre online regarding many subjects but over the last 6 months I've taken a big step back.

I started writing posts on social media, realising it was pointless and opening a can of worms that would keep me busy for hours and I'd just delete it. Now, I read, say it to myself and move on.

There have been a few threads on OCUK recently that are probably very moving for some people, my suspicions were raised though but I've said nothing about it.

I don't have time for political arguments or "I am better than you" posts, I've started blocking a few people on here like Rob, trolling posts etc.

I was raised that if I didn't have something nice to say be quiet, starting to be how I post online too.
 
Scan read the article - I think it was a good idea, but 'Mam' (who I presume was the driving factor here) was hugely naive with how it would pan out - probably owing [imo of course] to the fact she's 'a person of the cloth' and likely believes everyone is nice.

The internet is full of ******* and good deeds will often be **** all over by these people. Some of us would come across this heartwarming set of posts, and have a little smile - but others, find fun and enjoyment in being dicks about it - the internet makes a lot of these sorts of interactions, completely emotionless; I'm sure people making nasty remarks, would never do it face to face with the lad or his Mum.

But I still think everyone has the right to comment on whatever they want, regardless of their experience on the subject - that's one of the things the internet allowed and normalized (for good or bad).

Personally, I think that 'social media' has given rise to narcissism.
 
Seems a nice lad, I'm happy he's getting on so well in life. Also don't use Twitter, it's full of morons who've just discovered that they're anonymous on the internet.
 
Ayahuasca said:
I know plenty of people who have no filter in person either.
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I think a great way to visualise this (without trying to be political) is watch some videos of both Trump and Obama. I personally belive trump is a filterless speaker he is asked a question and an answer just slips out. Then when you see Obama asked a question he always pauses and thinks before he speaks and it’s very visual and purposeful.

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Scort said:
Scan read the article - I think it was a good idea, but 'Mam' (who I presume was the driving factor here) was hugely naive with how it would pan out - probably owing [imo of course] to the fact she's 'a person of the cloth' and likely believes everyone is nice.

The internet is full of ******* and good deeds will often be **** all over by these people. Some of us would come across this heartwarming set of posts, and have a little smile - but others, find fun and enjoyment in being dicks about it - the internet makes a lot of these sorts of interactions, completely emotionless; I'm sure people making nasty remarks, would never do it face to face with the lad or his Mum.

But I still think everyone has the right to comment on whatever they want, regardless of their experience on the subject - that's one of the things the internet allowed and normalized (for good or bad).
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It’s definitely great to be able to speak your mind. I just think many (all of us - nobody is 100% innocent) need to exercise self-control as to when they do so... or at least try :)
 
harry5522 said:
I think a great way to visualise this (without trying to be political) is watch some videos of both Trunp and Obama. I personally belive trump is a filterless speaker he is asked a question and an answer just slips out. Then when you see Obama asked a question he always pauses and thinks before he speaks and it’s very visual and purposeful.
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Yeah the era of Trump probably isn’t helping matters :(
 
Ooof you really need to distance yourself when debating anything online - I often get embroiled in arguments but I rarely take anything to heart especially when it comes to twitter and YouTube comments, etc. there are some really nasty, vitriolic, bored people out there - for me it is amusing as I can bore them to death before they actually get to me.
 
Nitefly said:
It’s definitely great to be able to speak your mind. I just think many (all of us - nobody is 100% innocent) need to exercise self-control as to when they do so... or at least try :)
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Indeed, self-control (in speech or otherwise) should always be exercised - but as Dirty Harry would say "opinions are like ********, everyone has one", and couple that with the vacuous individuals (not all I'm sure) on 'social media'; you end up with remarks being made in the linked story.
 
harry5522 said:
I think a great way to visualise this (without trying to be political) is watch some videos of both Trump and Obama. I personally belive trump is a filterless speaker he is asked a question and an answer just slips out. Then when you see Obama asked a question he always pauses and thinks before he speaks and it’s very visual and purposeful.

Edit : spelling.
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People seem to get this idea that being a good speaker and a likable bloke is the most important quality in a President and I'm not sure why.
 
Roar87 said:
People seem to get this idea that being a good speaker and a likable bloke is the most important quality in a President and I'm not sure why.
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Belive it or not I agree with you and personally think trump is a fantastic president in most cases. My post wasn’t about what i think make good presidential qualities. Just comparing two polar opposites when it comes to having filters on what you say.
 
It's rather telling of humans how given the vast forum of the internet, coupled with the relative anonymity it provides, that so many people choose to be abhorrent.
 
But the family found they occasionally had to delete @Being_Brent when things got out of hand.

In June, an academic jumped on a tweet by Brent that said he chose his own clothes and hairstyle "because I am a man and I can".

"Do you mean a man rather than a child Brent? It comes across as a man rather than a woman and I'm sure you don't believe that women can't choose their clothes and hair!" the academic tweeted.

A gender politics firestorm erupted and lots of Brent's followers publicly shamed the academic. Jacqui didn't like the attention or what she describes as the mob mentality and felt it necessary to temporarily shut down the account until the furore had died down.
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Really??? As opposed to people with Down's syndrome often being perceived as being rather child-like and Brent and his mum, who have clearly set up this twitter account in order to change perceptions, document the fact that he can do things for himself (like getting a Chinese etc..) are emphasising that he is a man not a boy, that he's making his own decisions etc... that's how it ought to come across if you're not actively looking to be offended by things.

Politicising the tweets of a Down's syndrome guy is ridiculous, why can't the just leave him be, write nice comments if they want to follow him or don't follow him if they're not interested.
 
Sadly another example of a victim mentality. Not the guy. But the women who jumped on to his tweets looking to be oppressed so they could react. Shameful and stupid.
 
harry5522 said:
I think a great way to visualise this (without trying to be political) is watch some videos of both Trump and Obama. I personally belive trump is a filterless speaker he is asked a question and an answer just slips out.
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Which is why people like President Trump, he's an honest man, he speaks his mind. You ask him a question, he gives you a clear direct answer.

Obama, David Cameron, Tony Blair and every single other politician won't give you a clear answer, it's always clouded in smoke or a damn right misdirection, you ask them a simple answer and you know they won't answer it, it's not really a surprise, since they get training for that.

Nitefly said:
Yeah the era of Trump probably isn’t helping matters :(
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Yeah, people being toxic on the Internet was well long a thing before Trump. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

This kid anyway, well, welcome to the Internet.
 
Deviant man who sexualises anime, shares it on OCUK, and buys in actual toys based on his Japanese school girl fantasies in TRUMP IS AN HONEST MAN shocker. More at 11.

And now I've made Nitefly grumpy, too :mad:
 
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