Would you eat lab grown meat?
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If it tastes as good as “normal” meat and upsets vegans just as much im in!
Wouldn't bother me in the slightest but I can see a down side to it, if it catches on & thanks to the economies of scale becomes cheaper & easier to produce than "real" meat, what happens to all the surplus animals that are no longer required for food production, I mean you can't very well wait for them to die of old age so do you wind up having some kind of a mass cull or something, just to keep their numbers in check?.
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Yep, can't wait! Would even happily pay a price premium.
Yeah I'll eat it no probs. It must be better than mechanically recovered sloppy.
Will it be competitivly priced?
Is it more effective and efficient to grow/farm?
The animals welfare isn't a major issue to me.
Farmed animals will cease to exist if it ticks all the boxes, kinda removes the issue if they don't exist.
I guess it will just be a progressive part of the food supply. Check the packet of frozen burgers to see if it's labgrown or sludge meat
Will it be competitivly priced?
Is it more effective and efficient to grow/farm?
The animals welfare isn't a major issue to me.
Farmed animals will cease to exist if it ticks all the boxes, kinda removes the issue if they don't exist.
I guess it will just be a progressive part of the food supply. Check the packet of frozen burgers to see if it's labgrown or sludge meat
I think it would be very useful and would be happy to eat it, though AFAIK some vegans are still against it as it still, at least initially, involves the use of dead animals in researching/creating it in the first place.
Oh I think there would be a long changeover period and there would almost certainly be various foodie types still eating meat.
People still buy non free range chickens/eggs etc.. most people don't bat an eyelid if the fried chicken they buy from some takeaway is halal etc.. the French are still big on foie gras, the Chinese, Japanese have some live dishes that are pretty messed up.
I'd hope that the early adoption of this stuff would be to replace that sort of cheap chicken, along with burgers, sausages etc.. given that people don't care if that stuff is battery farmed or halal or whatever etc.. then they'll likely pay little attention to whether it is lab grown either, in fact lab grown is probably automatically halal/kosher too so that problem is easily solved.
It would be interesting to see if we start eating insects in future, if bug burgers etc.. become a thing I wouldn't have an issue with that, likewise I'd assume that this lab grown stuff would initially just replace say generic "chicken" and "beef" etc.. but things like prawns, crab, muscles etc.. that have less of a market would perhaps be less of a priority (and perhaps technically more of a challenge too). Then again ethically I think eating say muscles or prawns (or insects if they become a thing) is rather different.
This is where I think some of the resistance will come in, I suspect there will inevitably be a crossover period where this synthetic meat stuff isn't good for much more than say making sausages or fried chicken or using in curries etc... but it isn't going to be the same (initially) as say getting different cuts of beef for use in steaks, or leg meat vs breast meat etc.. in chickens or indeed high quality corn fed chicken etc... However once it has been perfected and you can even get say synthetically produced Kobe steak etc.. I reckon there will be some foodie types who will refuse it..
Even once it is perfected and you can show repeatedly that you can't tell the difference in a blind test of say lab produced vs real meat you'll get some numpty claiming they've got golden tastebuds etc.. similar to audiophiles and hi-fi equipment.
People are taken in by marketing, they want to feel special etc.. I suspect there will still be some expensive restaurants selling real meat (at reassuringly high prices since few farms would exist by then) even if lab grown meat replaces it for the vast majority of us.
Oh I think there would be a long changeover period and there would almost certainly be various foodie types still eating meat.
People still buy non free range chickens/eggs etc.. most people don't bat an eyelid if the fried chicken they buy from some takeaway is halal etc.. the French are still big on foie gras, the Chinese, Japanese have some live dishes that are pretty messed up.
I'd hope that the early adoption of this stuff would be to replace that sort of cheap chicken, along with burgers, sausages etc.. given that people don't care if that stuff is battery farmed or halal or whatever etc.. then they'll likely pay little attention to whether it is lab grown either, in fact lab grown is probably automatically halal/kosher too so that problem is easily solved.
It would be interesting to see if we start eating insects in future, if bug burgers etc.. become a thing I wouldn't have an issue with that, likewise I'd assume that this lab grown stuff would initially just replace say generic "chicken" and "beef" etc.. but things like prawns, crab, muscles etc.. that have less of a market would perhaps be less of a priority (and perhaps technically more of a challenge too). Then again ethically I think eating say muscles or prawns (or insects if they become a thing) is rather different.
This is where I think some of the resistance will come in, I suspect there will inevitably be a crossover period where this synthetic meat stuff isn't good for much more than say making sausages or fried chicken or using in curries etc... but it isn't going to be the same (initially) as say getting different cuts of beef for use in steaks, or leg meat vs breast meat etc.. in chickens or indeed high quality corn fed chicken etc... However once it has been perfected and you can even get say synthetically produced Kobe steak etc.. I reckon there will be some foodie types who will refuse it..
Even once it is perfected and you can show repeatedly that you can't tell the difference in a blind test of say lab produced vs real meat you'll get some numpty claiming they've got golden tastebuds etc.. similar to audiophiles and hi-fi equipment.
People are taken in by marketing, they want to feel special etc.. I suspect there will still be some expensive restaurants selling real meat (at reassuringly high prices since few farms would exist by then) even if lab grown meat replaces it for the vast majority of us.
Generally with food, especially meat it seems, the more it's messed about with (processed) the worse it is for you. This lab meat seems quite highly processed to me. I can't see it being as good for you as a fresh, prime cut of high standard, high welfare "proper" meat.
But processed in what sense? You're not making much sense with that - you made some declaration earlier in the thread about not wanting to eat "processed" food and questioning whether this counts as processed etc... I think you might be conflating this with processed foods with increased salt, sugar or fat content etc.. the issue isn't that they've been "processed" so to speak but that they contain higher salt, sugar or fat etc..
Just because it is manufactured in a lab or has been "processed" doesn't mean it is inherently going to be unsafe or unhealthy.
Milk is a processed food, it is processed for your own safety. Breakfast cereals are processed foods, the ones without high sugar content are generally quite healthy.
Nah, not all processed food has added salt, sugar etc. Look at minced beef for example.
I never claimed it did, read the post again. I'm questioning what your objection to processed food (in general) is and I'm actually highlighting that not all processed foods are inherently bad.
I even gave you some examples of foods that don't have added salt, sugar etc...
You talk about wanting your food to be as natural as possible - do you understand why, for example, the milk in supermarkets is processed?
The point is just because this lab grown meat could be said to be "processed" doesn't infer that it is necessarily any less healthy than regular meat.
I buy non-homogenised milk that's produced by a farmer less than 40 miles away from his own cattle and bottled on site. It's about as natural as you can buy.
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Here it is. I recommend you try it if you can, it's delish. https://www.llaethdyllyn.com/
I buy non-homogenised milk that's produced by a farmer less than 40 miles away from his own cattle and bottled on site. It's about as natural as you can buy.
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Here it is. I recommend you try it if you can, it's delish. https://www.llaethdyllyn.com/
Still processed though... homogenization is a separate process to pasteurisation.
It isn't as natural as you can buy - buying raw milk would be as natural as you can buy but I don't see the point, pasteurisation exist for a reason.
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Correct. That's why I said "as natural as possible" and not "completely natural".
OK so we've established that you still buy processed milk.
Back on topic, the point was that being "processed" doesn't mean something is inherently bad.
No, we've established that the milk I buy is as natural as possible, which is the claim I originally made.
You seem a bit agitated, chap. Are you ok?
No, we've established that the milk I buy is as natural as possible, which is the claim I originally made.
You seem a bit agitated, chap. Are you ok?
I'm not agitated
I'm just discussing the topic though we're getting side tracked as you seem to ignore questions and now want to talk about the milk you buy. You've also ignored various things I've posted and so we've got some needless additional posts now. For example you could buy raw milk, that is as natural as possible whereas you've opted to buy pasteurised milk - not that this is particularly relevant to the topic of the thread other than to point out that your milk example illustrates that you are in fact willing to buy processed foods.Back to the topic/objection though you've got some issue with things being "natural" and not "processed" it seems, this doesn't seem to be a particularly rational stance to have if it is just adopted as a general knee jerk position. As already mentioned there are various reasons for processed meats etc.. to be considered unhealthy though there are various other foods that are processed and are fine.