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Worthy price for the RX 590?

morguk

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You have been able to get an RX 580 at £200 pretty easily for a while now. Even £190 in the recent sales.

The 590 is only about 5% on average quicker than a 580, yet they are priced from £240-280.

They are 20-40% more expensive for only a 5% average performance increase. I understand there isn't a linear scale with price and performance, but it would make sense for the 590 to be much more expensive if it had a 15-20% performance gain.

Based on the small performance gain, we should see a 590 for at most 10% more expensive than the 580. The ideal price is around £220.
 
No the price on 590 is correct.
The price on 580 is not correct, they are deal prices, which will end and 580 will move towards £210-£230 region.

So no 590 won't drop, 580 will go up. :)
 
jigger said:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/Radeon_RX_590_Nitro_Plus/32.html

Seems more like 12% It's a bit hard to say what is a fair price today. If you look at it from the point if the 590 was an Nvidia card... It's probably worth every penny, especially for someone with a freesync monitor.
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You're comparing the best 590 to a reference 580. If you compare like for like, so a custom 580 to a custom 590 or a reference 580 to a reference 590 it is 5%.

Gibbo said:
No the price on 590 is correct.
The price on 580 is not correct, they are deal prices, which will end and 580 will move towards £210-£230 region.

So no 590 won't drop, 580 will go up. :)
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Ahh, that makes more sense.​
 
morguk said:
You're comparing the best 590 to a reference 580. If you compare like for like, so a custom 580 to a custom 590 or a reference 580 to a reference 590 it is 5%.



Ahh, that makes more sense. Why will prices go up though?​
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Seems a lot more than 5% Maybe you are comparing the worst tested 590 to the best 580? The 590 bests the 480 by almost 25% and I don't remebere a massive difference between those two cards.
 
morguk said:
You have been able to get an RX 580 at £200 pretty easily for a while now. Even £190 in the recent sales.

The 590 is only about 5% on average quicker than a 580, yet they are priced from £240-280.

They are 20-40% more expensive for only a 5% average performance increase. I understand there isn't a linear scale with price and performance, but it would make sense for the 590 to be much more expensive if it had a 15-20% performance gain.

Based on the small performance gain, we should see a 590 for at most 10% more expensive than the 580. The ideal price is around £220.
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You have to do card for card comparisons, on price and performance. I don't think the prices are wrong looking at my own card. Cards are too expensive that's a fact, but people need to stop getting robbed with pre-order (especially when the cards turn out to be crap, like the 2080ti Aorus), and wait for sales, like the recent one we saw on Vega 56/64. There was £100 off the V64. The 56 was also a really good price.
 
I'm just done testing the XFX RX 590 Fatboy and in Denmark it's listed at £272 at the cheapest retailer, however I can find a XFX RX 580 GTS XXX Edition for £202 and that's not an "on sale" price but normal retail. I'd pick the RX 580 any day for that price.
 
The 590 card seems very well priced against the 1060 6gb cards. Consider what freesync adds and 590 makes a pretty strong argument for a gaming system.
 
jigger said:
The 590 card seems very well priced against the 1060 6gb cards. Consider what freesync adds and 590 makes a pretty strong argument for a gaming system.
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Well GTX 1060 6GB cards are also still a bit too expensive. They have remained at the same price tag for 2 years now.
 
Gripen90 said:
Well GTX 1060 6GB cards are also still a bit too expensive. They have remained at the same price tag for 2 years now.
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The 590 is definitely priced in the lower third of the 1060 range. Thats not bad for a faster card with freesync support. I think I'd have to go with the 590 and freesync monitor over a 1070.
 
jigger said:
Not sure how that's defending the price. It's comparing the card and what is on offer to others on the market. It's the market that sets the price.
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I don't understand how someone like yourself thinks this is good value at this late stage take 3. A gtx1070 frankly is eol and this 590 cannot even come close to one. The rx590 was objectively all about end performance at the cost of power consumption. They failed to scale by a linear current draw/frequency attained on this process. So the clock gains aren't translating into gaining efficient performance. They didn't even use faster gddr5 memory. Fair enough if the 570/580 were eol, and this 590 came in at £160-200.i could even forgive it if the rx590 used the denser lithography to incorporate an extra cu on each geometry engine, that combined with some decent gddr5 memory, it would be a bit closer to a stock 1070
It uses x2 the power of gp106, does not get used in laptops only a desktop and is propping up the prices in a stagnant entry level to mid range market.
 
Davedree said:
I don't understand how someone like yourself thinks this is good value at this late stage take 3. A gtx1070 frankly is eol and this 590 cannot even come close to one. The rx590 was objectively all about end performance at the cost of power consumption. They failed to scale by a linear current draw/frequency attained on this process. So the clock gains aren't translating into gaining efficient performance. They didn't even use faster gddr5 memory. Fair enough if the 570/580 were eol, and this 590 came in at £160-200.i could even forgive it if the rx590 used the denser lithography to incorporate an extra cu on each geometry engine, that combined with some decent gddr5 memory, it would be a bit closer to a stock 1070
It uses x2 the power of gp106, does not get used in laptops only a desktop and is propping up the prices in a stagnant entry level to mid range market.
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I don't understand why you feel that I feel this is good value. Maybe read my other posts?
 
You pay approx 35% more for a RX 590 for additional 10% performance over a RX 580 8GB. I'd go for the RX 580 and a Freesync monitor :)
 
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