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Prices gone crazy again ? hasn't mining gone DEAD?

If AMD come in with their top end 7nm GPU next year and still cant match 2080 performance, I'll buy that nice looking Palit Super Jet stream 2080 the day those benchmarks emerge. :D
 
Kaapstad said:
People don't like parting with money.

If the top of the range GPU was £10 there would be people saying it is a rip off and it should be £5.
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i have got to admit, i preordered a 2018ti, and in the end decided enough was enough and cancelled (gigabyte artificially gimping their windforce 2080ti to make their more expensive one stand out was the straw which broke the camels back etc)

I dont think believing NV are taking the **** on pricing of the 2080ti is just a matter of being tight to be honest esp because as of today, with DLSS and RTX still being largely an unknown entity .

I got a 1080ti instead and the £500 saving i made bought a £1300 pinball table instead.... hows that for totally illogical thinking :D
 
bigmike20vt said:
I got a 1080ti instead and the £500 saving i made bought a £1300 pinball table instead.... hows that for totally illogical thinking :D
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Makes perfect sense.

A pinball table will never become obsolete but in 10 years time a 2080 Ti will just be an expensive paperweight.:D
 
bigmike20vt said:
i have got to admit, i preordered a 2018ti, and in the end decided enough was enough and cancelled (gigabyte artificially gimping their windforce 2080ti to make their more expensive one stand out was the straw which broke the camels back etc)

I dont think believing NV are taking the **** on pricing of the 2080ti is just a matter of being tight to be honest esp because as of today, with DLSS and RTX still being largely an unknown entity .

I got a 1080ti instead and the £500 saving i made bought a £1300 pinball table instead.... hows that for totally illogical thinking :D
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It isn't a matter of just being tight, it's a matter of understanding what value for money is. People that don't understand that will never have any money.
 
Darujhistan said:
Would you like me to dumb it down a bit?

I haven't mentioned you or your purchasing once, yet you feel the need to defend and justify it? Very strange. Mind you I have seen you justifying your spending on the forum before. It seems to me that you lost the argument a while ago, so decided to personalise it, then your intellect failed, so you doubled down on personal again.

I haven't criticised your spelling either, so once again you exhibit your confusion and inability to comprehend what's going on.

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You can dumb it down if you like but I was talking from a personal perspective and what my buying does. You are on an enthusiast forum in a GPU section and pulling me up about buying GPUs.... LMAO. Also, spelling isn't my strong point, neither is maths and I never feel it fair to pull people up on it (I don't recall quoting you or mentioning your name?). The thread is about a 1080Ti that is no longer being made being more expensive than when the guy bought it. This isn't uncommon and happens when stock is low.

Also, I didn't think we was arguing and was just having a discussion? I also don't do personal but reading back on a few of my posts, it might seem that way but something I am passionate about does tend to entice me in and reading others thoughts does open up for good debate.
 
This thread has descended in a moan about not being able to justify spending on the highest spec GPU. Or being able to afford one.

Now I was disappointed that the RTX 20 Series hasn't given much or any increase in performance per £. And personally would have preferred they hadn't wasted space on the RTX cores. Which would have either made for a smaller core (cheaper GPU) or a faster GPU (increase in performance per £, subject to thermal limits, having that many extra cuda cores may not be viable.) IMO RTX needed to wait for the next gen.
But I do understand why they are priced as they are.

As for OCUK 1080ti prices. If they are selling at an inflated price they would be silly to reduce the price. I wouldn't be surprised if they have the biggest stock of 1080ti in the country.
Even if they aren't sell fast, as long as they have the spare storage capacity and don't have cash flow problems holding old stock isn't a problem. I'm sure they will adjust the price if they still have stock closer to the next wave of GPUs.
Some retailers won't have the space or cash flow to hold on the expensive stock for long periods so have to price lower.


Most products on general sale have a wide price point. Just pick what suits your needs at a price you can afford or justify.
Gaming at the low end is probably they cheapest it's ever been due to an abundant 2nd hand market. It's just the performance growth on new product per £ spent has slowed, and Brexit has been a contributing factor for the UK.

Expecting the top end of any product type to be affordable to the average person isn't at all realistic.

Darujhistan said:
It isn't a matter of just being tight, it's a matter of understanding what value for money is. People that don't understand that will never have any money.
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Top end is rarely the best value for money, particularly with items that will become obsolete over time.

I'm also sure there a loads of well-off/rich people that have no concept of value for money, but have plenty of it. Plenty of people will spend £100 per person for a meal out and thing nothing of it. But for most people that would seem excessive.
 
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Gregster said:
You can dumb it down if you like but I was talking from a personal perspective and what my buying does. You are on an enthusiast forum in a GPU section and pulling me up about buying GPUs.... LMAO. Also, spelling isn't my strong point, neither is maths and I never feel it fair to pull people up on it (I don't recall quoting you or mentioning your name?). The thread is about a 1080Ti that is no longer being made being more expensive than when the guy bought it. This isn't uncommon and happens when stock is low.

Also, I didn't think we was arguing and was just having a discussion? I also don't do personal but reading back on a few of my posts, it might seem that way but something I am passionate about does tend to entice me in and reading others thoughts does open up for good debate.
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You said you didn't understand what I posted. Tell me what parts of the bolded quote you don't get and i'll try and explain it better. I'm not pulling you up about buying anything, the discussion wasn't about personal choices until you made it so.

And again, I haven't discussed your spelling either (or maths for that matter), that's twice i've told you that, are you sure you're reading and responsing to the right posts?

I think general consensus can be reached on certain items being overpriced. Well, as there's usually enough people who are comfortable with being ripped off, items will sell. It doesn't change the fact they're overpriced. Of course some deem blatant gouging acceptable, people think paying AAA prices for buggy, unfinished, hollowed out games is acceptable, it doesn't mean it isn't an over-priced ripoff. It also doesn't mean that they're wrong to buy them either, it's their money, but that also doesn't mean the game in question isn't a ripoff.

As for the 1080ti in question, I think that if it costs more now than when it was first released then that is blatantly a rip-off, just because it's not uncommon doesn't change that. Unless it's something that appreciates in value, like property then the price should come down (subject to inflation and cuurency fluctuations etc) - a GPU is clearly a depreciating asset as tech moves forward. Also, if s GPU is in short supply, and the price is artificially high for that reason, that still doesn't change the fact it is over-priced.

Surely you understand that, right?
 
Top end is rarely the best value for money, particularly with items that will become obsolete over time.

I'm also sure there a loads of well-off/rich people that have no concept of value for money, but have plenty of it. Plenty of people will spend £100 per person for a meal out and thing nothing of it. But for most people that would seem excessive.


Agree re top end pricing.

Well there are outliers like the already wealthy who have never had a earn a penny, but the vast majority of people have to work for a living, and if they don't understand value then they'll certainly never have any money.
 
DaveGW said:
Overclockers gouging customers again, its discraceful. They can't do it on 20xx cards as Nvidia cut them out by pricing high. Looking on the bright side though, no excuse not to buy a 20xx lemon.
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It’s the market my friend, the GTX1080ti is no longer being manufactured and global stocks are low, enthusiasts may willing to pay it to build an SLI rig. Before slating OcUK perhaps consider whether you’d turn down a pay rise?

I think RTX prices will come down, already RTX2070 cards were sub £500 or below MSRP during the Black Friday deals. As Bitcoin and crypto keep falling expect more and more used Pascal cards to flood the market.

nVidia are sitting on a tonne of lower end Pascal cards, they disclosed this to investors in their most recent earnings call and they’ve seen their share price plummet about 40% as a result. It’s so bad they have repurposed GTX1080 dies and are selling them as GTX1070 cards so as not to compete with the RTX2070.

The trouble is they have sailed the RTX ship, so can’t do an about turn despite poor manufacturing yields on the 754mm2 RTX2080ti dies for fear of their stockholders. I expect the RTX2080ti pricing to remain high due to poor yields, whilst RTX 2070 cards will drop close to, or at MSRP, and RTX2080 cards will also drop.

How anyone can justify an ROG Strix RTX2080 OC at £999 is beyond me! Given the sparse headroom over the factory OC its a joke quite frankly!

I would strongly recommend anyone thinking of an RTX card waiting a year, unless it’s an RTX2070 since it’s about the only option that remains sensible for most consumers. Those who can afford to pop £550 on an i9-9900K and an RTX2080ti are a small bunch, these forums aren’t generally representative since it’s full of enthusiasts.

The best recent deal remains the ROG Strix Vega 64 paired with a decent FreeSync 1440p monitor, shame the £410 price from Black Friday has passed!
 
LambChop said:
Why does everything need to be value for money, that's something people with no money say. Ugly people say beauty is on the inside etc.
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Not very well put, I think “value is relative and some people like to indulge their hobbies” would have been a rather more tactful response!

Th0nt said:
It just works..
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Nice to see a fellow disciple of Tech Jesus, aka Steve at GamersNexus.
 
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