Stay in the city and stop spoilling the countryside. Where do you think all the food you eat comes from? It's only wrapped in plastic so you can have nice shaped vegetables out of season when ever you want.
UN Migration Pact - Criticising Migration = Hate Crime
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Gonna need that food anyway, those lovely villages could be bulldozed for more land to grow glorious mechanically engineered meat.
What is wrong with you?
They have their own power station, abattoir, hospital, bank, factories, construction industry and never rely on imported food?
I grew up in a small town (8k), I currently live in a village of about 150. I like living int he countryside like this, but it is not efficient in the slightest and has numerous drawbacks. Everyone has to commute a long way to work, drive a car to go shopping, drive anywhere to do anything in fact. There are numerous additional costs in supplying utilities, infrastructure and roads.
And then the other aspect is cities observe a sup[er-linear performance in terms of output (productivity, GDP, patents, scientific output, music, literature, services, software, inventions, ...), at the same time their requirements in terms of water, electricity, gas, and services like garbage collection increase sub-linearly. Thousands of research articles pointing this out.
Put a million people in dozens of separate towns they will need far more resources and will be far more damaging to the planet, all the while producing far less useful output. A million people in 1 city will be far more productive, cheaper and easier to supply, produce more value at lower cost.
Ever time you double a cities population you get 15-20% higher productivity and it will cost the country and the environment 20-30% less. Which is why all the worlds major cities are economic power houses. That is why London is so critical to the entire UK, every one living in London is so much more efficient that they are producing far more output and value to the country at a far lower cost.
I say this as someone who can't stands living in cities
There in lies the problem with the pyramid scheme we call an economy.
I assume you mean something along the lines of a switch from an increasingly urban population (which has been the trend for a long time now) to a more "rural" population as there is less need to all be near offices and places of work?
Are you that old hermit that lives in the run down house on the edge of the village, or did you come straight out of the 1950's?
There always seems to be a few of them in every village. The rest of the community do their main shops at the local supermarket, go to school in the nearby town and spend far more time driving than those living in town.
Yes. Fewer jobs and also people more spread out.
You go first. Give you computer and car to someone else and go buy one produced locally (good luck finding that locally sourced silicon and aluminium).
Remember also to only buy locally made wool clothing, sourced from local sheep. No cotton, no synthetics as they’re all products of globalization.
So you aren't against globalisation then. Got it.
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I support migration and the UN but making criticizing migration a hate crime is crazy.
Luckily they’re not, although it may seem like that if you only watch the OPs video.
Did everyone see the Government's reply?
Not too surprising the stance they have taken..
A nice relatively concise reply to all the junk being spread. Considering a lot of it is about reducing irregular migration (as mentioned above) I'm surprised more people on this forum aren't actually in support of it...
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Gotta dog whistle til the vocal coords are dry.
The lack of critical thinking in this thread by the usual suspects shouldn’t really come as a surprise, but it does go towards explaining their stance on a wider range of subjects.
Going back to the discussion, I agree with @Hades about automation. I read or heard somewhere recently that since 2010, more native jobs in America have been lost to automation than immigration and outsourcing to other countries.
So all of those ‘build a wall’ supporters are misplacing their ire to a large degree.
It’s a trend that’s only going to continue, with even some skilled jobs like paralegal research and identifying cancer (on certain types of scan) being replaced.
Sorry - been busy but it's great that the UK government have replied to this petition. As expected, with the usual contempt that they usually treat the electorate and without any nuance and no addressing of the rather vague terms. The government says it's fine so don't worry! I'll put my hands up to being sucked in by the original post but the more I look into this, the more I'm confused. It's not legally binding so let's remember that for future cases....
I honestly don't see how this brings any benefit to our current arrangements, especially given that we are one of the leaders in improving living conditions elsewhere with foreign aid funding. Why sign an agreement that is not legally binding? It just doesn't make sense. This framework should be geared at countries that just don't know how to deal with a sudden influx of migrants but to be honest, I don't see why the UN are dictating to them what they should "voluntarily" do because they have their own democratic process.
Off on a tangent, this has always been a very difficult issue personally. Completely discarding those who have no skills from the argument, I worry about the impact that taking in scientists, surgeons and their ilk has on their country of origin. How would we feel if all our cancer consultants suddenly decided to up sticks and move to New Zealand? I'm happy that I can be treated by someone that knows what they are doing, but their home country has lost out by their emigration. We're actually screwing over the third world and even other civilised countries by nicking their best and brightest.
I honestly don't know how to feel about the situation apart from being a selfish dick and accepting it, saying thanks, doc! (which I've actually done through a 4 hour operation recently).
Jesus this kind of issue has become so toxic that I'm beginning to disengage completely with political debate.
Excuse my cynicism because I don't believe a word our politicians say these days.
I honestly don't see how this brings any benefit to our current arrangements, especially given that we are one of the leaders in improving living conditions elsewhere with foreign aid funding. Why sign an agreement that is not legally binding? It just doesn't make sense. This framework should be geared at countries that just don't know how to deal with a sudden influx of migrants but to be honest, I don't see why the UN are dictating to them what they should "voluntarily" do because they have their own democratic process.
Off on a tangent, this has always been a very difficult issue personally. Completely discarding those who have no skills from the argument, I worry about the impact that taking in scientists, surgeons and their ilk has on their country of origin. How would we feel if all our cancer consultants suddenly decided to up sticks and move to New Zealand? I'm happy that I can be treated by someone that knows what they are doing, but their home country has lost out by their emigration. We're actually screwing over the third world and even other civilised countries by nicking their best and brightest.
I honestly don't know how to feel about the situation apart from being a selfish dick and accepting it, saying thanks, doc! (which I've actually done through a 4 hour operation recently).
Jesus this kind of issue has become so toxic that I'm beginning to disengage completely with political debate.
Excuse my cynicism because I don't believe a word our politicians say these days.
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Think about it from the ‘third/second world’ counties perspective. If the first-world counties won’t sign up to this compact, why the hell should they?
Even though, as @Amp34 has point out, the UK pretty much has all of these points covered in legislation already, we’re still leaders on the world stage and we have to set a standard.
As for your second point; skilled
individuals trade places with each other all the time. It’s parse and parcel of a globalised world. I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
Even though, as @Amp34 has point out, the UK pretty much has all of these points covered in legislation already, we’re still leaders on the world stage and we have to set a standard.
As for your second point; skilled
individuals trade places with each other all the time. It’s parse and parcel of a globalised world. I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
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