China- A sign of the future?

Raymond Lin said:
My point is you don’t directly vote for she PM but your vote can influence who is the PM. EU is the same.
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And my point is that I can't. The president of the European Union is voted for by the European Council. The European Council consists largely of heads of state of the member nations.

So to affect who the president of the EU is, I would need to vote for a party in the UK who has a partly leader who I trust would vote at the European Council for the president of the European Union. In theory it's possible. But it's so far removed from any influence by actual real people that we simply don't have any meaningful influence in who runs it.
 
And if we're in Europe and help govern it, then we're governing ourselves, no? We've been in this position for years, together with a veto, and our native lawmakers have been too incompetent to make anything of it for a generation.
 
- One child families for population control
- Geo-engineering to stop desertifcation and improve climate conditions
- Social engineering for the good of the people
- Internets crackdown/control/filtering


These are ALL things which will eventually happen in the west, China is decades ahead of the game and the west should be learning valuable lessons from their experiences in controlling 2Bn people.

You could argue some of it is creeping in already... internet controls, and benefits only given to two children now, a mild form of population control effectively, even if it was not the intended consequence.
 
Hades said:
And my point is that I can't. The president of the European Union is voted for by the European Council. The European Council consists largely of heads of state of the member nations.

So to affect who the president of the EU is, I would need to vote for a party in the UK who has a partly leader who I trust would vote at the European Council for the president of the European Union. In theory it's possible. But it's so far removed from any influence by actual real people that we simply don't have any meaningful influence in who runs it.
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Just like no one actually voted for Theresa May yet somehow she still got to be PM, let a lone the fact that majority of people didn't even vote for the Tories.
 
D.P. said:
Just like no one actually voted for Theresa May yet somehow she still got to be PM, let a lone the fact that majority of people didn't even vote for the Tories.
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1) The PM vote is what I was responding to so you're a bit late on that one.

2) More people voted for the Tories than any other party.
 
The_Abyss said:
And if we're in Europe and help govern it, then we're governing ourselves, no? We've been in this position for years, together with a veto, and our native lawmakers have been too incompetent to make anything of it for a generation.
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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I think it best to leave our law making to those in the EU
 
D.P. said:
If only the entire UK population lived in Maidenhead then you might actually have had a point to make, shame that the reality is the country never democratically voted for May to be the UK PM.
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The country never votes for a pm so I don't get what your point is?
 
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