Windows 10 Pro download

andy_mk3 said:
Not sure what this whole thread is about when the answer is in the first post lol.
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Glad it's not just me who thought that!

I've not understood a word of the rest of it: is there something I've not noticed in the OP that calls for all this discussion? I used the Microsoft USB tool. *shrug*
 
andy_mk3 said:
The MS download tool has a USB drive option
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Does that download the .iso image to a certain folder then format the USB drive and extract the files to the USB then delete the original .iso file . Or does the .iso image remain after the USB has been made ?

I have never used that tool to make a USB. I think I may have to test this out.
 
tnx said:
Does that download the .iso image to a certain folder then format the USB drive and extract the files to the USB then delete the original .iso file . Or does the .iso image remain after the USB has been made ?

I have never used that tool to make a USB. I think I may have to test this out.
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It does both, it gives you the option to select a USB drive, or download to an ISO. You can select between downloading 32/63bit or both together. It's a foolproof little program and why anyone would want to mess about with rufus or diskpart (both brilliant tools) when there's a dedicated program from MS to do the job, I don't know!
 
andy_mk3 said:
It does both, it gives you the option to select a USB drive, or download to an ISO. You can select between downloading 32/63bit or both together. It's a foolproof little program and why anyone would want to mess about with rufus or diskpart (both brilliant tools) when there's a dedicated program from MS to do the job, I don't know!
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I am going to try this later.

( won't put me off Diskpart )
 
koolpc said:
Always.
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Maybe you should give a USB drive a shot. It's a lot quicker.

The last rig I built up was an i9 9900k on an Asus ROG board with 32 go RAM.

With using a USB 3 type C drive it took under 8 mins to install Windows.
( The OS files were just copied to the USB root )

Never actually timed a Win 10 install off a DVD disc, but in most of the new builds I have done there was no optical drive installed.
 
Having installed Windows A LOT, the most success I've had is downloading the .iso from MS website, or through the Creation Tool, and then using Rufus to install onto a USB, ensuring it's formatted correctly.

Having tried other combinations, I've had little errors here and there that have ultimately lead me to re downloading everything again and re installing.
 
I have just been messing with that Microsoft Media Creation Tool.. (MCT)

I have done two tests.

Firstly I just downloaded a .iso image. It took 6 minutes to download.

Secondly I used the tool to make a USB. It did not download a .iso image but just downloaded files to my chosen USB. The file system is FAT32. This took 10 minutes to make, which I feel is pretty fast.
I did notice though the MCT brought up ALL of my drives so care should be taken there to select the USB, double checking the drive letters before proceeding.

I noticed the .iso image is smaller than my latest MSDN image and the difference at a quick glance is the install.wim file is actually a install.esd file. Which is a more compressed version. I have the inclination to convert this install.esd to a .wim and compare the sizes then.

It is the first time is using the media creation tool, first impression is its pretty good.

I have yet to do an install with this MCT made USB but i will do later, just to see.

I feel it fare now to download the latest Rufus and see how long it takes to make a USB with the MCT downloaded .iso image.
Then I suppose i should time how long it takes for Diskpart to format the drive and how long it takes my machine to copy the OS files over. I will use the MCT .iso image files.

I will make sure to use the same USB 3 drive for the testing.
 
tnx said:
I have just been messing with that Microsoft Media Creation Tool.. (MCT)

I have done two tests.

Firstly I just downloaded a .iso image. It took 6 minutes to download.

Secondly I used the tool to make a USB. It did not download a .iso image but just downloaded files to my chosen USB. The file system is FAT32. This took 10 minutes to make, which I feel is pretty fast.
I did notice though the MCT brought up ALL of my drives so care should be taken there to select the USB, double checking the drive letters before proceeding.

I noticed the .iso image is smaller than my latest MSDN image and the difference at a quick glance is the install.wim file is actually a install.esd file. Which is a more compressed version. I have the inclination to convert this install.esd to a .wim and compare the sizes then.

It is the first time is using the media creation tool, first impression is its pretty good.

I have yet to do an install with this MCT made USB but i will do later, just to see.

I feel it fare now to download the latest Rufus and see how long it takes to make a USB with the MCT downloaded .iso image.
Then I suppose i should time how long it takes for Diskpart to format the drive and how long it takes my machine to copy the OS files over. I will use the MCT .iso image files.

I will make sure to use the same USB 3 drive for the testing.
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Make sure you delete partitions and format the USB stick in between attempts, id love to see a video of you copying the files direct from the ISO to the USB stick and then it failing to boot.
 
Well I just did a test install of the USB the Microsoft Tool made. Installed perfectly, but why wouldn't it.

I just made two new USB one using the latest Rufus and one using Diskpart and manually copying the files.

Rufus took 6 mins
Diskpart, manual copy paste took 7 mins.

Using the Diskpart and manual copy paste I am just installing Windows onto my test rig.. ( nothing special. Format using Diskpart using the command i have shown then simply extract the .ios files and copy them onto the USB root. Bingo )

Windows is installing as I type..

I don't need to make a video proving it does not work. I know it does. Maybe you should make a video trying to show it does not work, showing it does work. Bet you have never tried it. Have you ?

So with my rig, Asus TUF Z270 , i7 6700K and 16 GB 3200 RAM it seems Rufus is Quicker. Although using the M.Soft tool to download and make the USB only took 10 minutes.

The only person not really saying much seems to be the OP.

What are they going to choose ?
 
Slightly off topic..

I did say I noticed the install.wim file was actually a install.esd file. ( same sort of file but .esd is a lot more compressed )

The downloaded .iso was build 1809 version 17763.107 and the install.esd held all the various Windows 10 options from Home to Pro and Education plus "N" versions too. size roughly 3.3GB.
I did convert this to install.wim which is the more conventional image used and the size went to nearly 4.2GB.

This of course would not fit on a USB drive formatted to FAT32.

But usually i just export the Pro Index and use that install.wim any way which I have always found to be under 4GB.
 
tnx said:
The only person not really saying much seems to be the OP.
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I'm not suprised. Literally the first reply to the thread gives a tool that does everything they need in one yet this has now devolved in to a 39 post thread offering convuluted alternatives and arguing which is best Albeit in a civilised manner.
 
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