Could you picture the outrage from people that recently bought the card if they did? And rightly so. I just hope this kick in the plums that nvidia received makes them rethink their retarded pricing.
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NVIDIA Stock Falls 2.1% After Turing GPU Reviews Fail to Impress Morgan Stanley, are they doomed?
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Could you picture the outrage from people that recently bought the card if they did? And rightly so. I just hope this kick in the plums that nvidia received makes them rethink their retarded pricing.
Probably would, but for some reason you get execs who don't think like that. Now they are losing business and market share.
They think they are Apple, but GPUs will never be fashion items like Apple stuff. It's a tool which only does one dedicated job and people want value for money.
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Reading the article it's both seemingly the driverless car concept isn't progressing as planned and bitcoin price drop making the GPU market drop off. Expecting to sell the same number of GPU's for the same price when the market is much smaller is never realistic. I've heard it said miners preferred AMD, well whether that's true or not matters not. Because once AMD loses miner sales they've forced to drop their prices and many buyers then buy AMD instead of Nvidia (in theory). In turn Nvidia either sell less cards or have to drop their prices. Then there's all the faulty 2000 series that will cost them.
I wonder what sales figures look like month on month in 2018 for both companies.
Overall it's a good sign for gamers. Because it means prices are expected to drop. AMD prices have already dropped, NVidia less so but there have been a few deals recently.
I wonder what sales figures look like month on month in 2018 for both companies.
Overall it's a good sign for gamers. Because it means prices are expected to drop. AMD prices have already dropped, NVidia less so but there have been a few deals recently.
People preferred AMD because their compute power is far better, so would give a much better hash rate. People were selling used AMD cards for insane money because there was no stock anywhere.
AMD is probably stable because they didn't really jump on the mining bandwagon. Plus they have the console market sewn up.
AMD is probably stable because they didn't really jump on the mining bandwagon. Plus they have the console market sewn up.
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AMD had the same problem too, in fact I think they were the initial disappointment to the last round of results releases. AMD share price is down from $32.** to just under $20. AMD are holding up pretty well with expectation for further growth built into the share price and market gains on Intel especially.
Both NVidia and AMD GPU's were good for mining, each better at some algorithms than others. Many preferred Nvidia cards I think due to being likely able to retain value better and also I think they were suited to more algorithms than AMD GPU's were/are.
Both NVidia and AMD GPU's were good for mining, each better at some algorithms than others. Many preferred Nvidia cards I think due to being likely able to retain value better and also I think they were suited to more algorithms than AMD GPU's were/are.
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Solid competition is the only way we'll get this, and hopefully we'll start to get it soon!
No point doing that if there only going make the same profit....
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I doubt it. If people prefer AMD for mining and the mining market crashes AMD has to suffer. Their prices have been slashed and the obvious reasons are A) demand has dropped and B) End of life. But mainly point A is likely imo. AMD does have CPUs and Consoles to spread the loss but consoles are low profit margins
It would be interesting if @Gibbo could give us an idea of AMD versus Nvidia sales at the moment and recent months. I still imagine Nvidia are easily outselling AMD as has been the trend
This is good to see, hopefully it'll bring nVidia back from the moon, where they've been coming up with their pricing.
This is definitely something that had to happen with out of hand their prices have been getting.
I doubt they'll do immediate price cuts, maybe a reshuffle like they did with the 9 and 10 series, but at this point they've got to understand that they can't release their next range of cards at the comical pricing they've released the RTX series at.
This is definitely something that had to happen with out of hand their prices have been getting.
I doubt they'll do immediate price cuts, maybe a reshuffle like they did with the 9 and 10 series, but at this point they've got to understand that they can't release their next range of cards at the comical pricing they've released the RTX series at.
The problem with NVidia is they are giving us what they think we should have, not what we want.
Most people don't want to pay silly prices for huge chips with cores for DLSS and RTX, these are features that would not have seen the light of day for another couple of generations if AMD had alternatives at the 2080 Ti performance level.
When AMD and intel become more competitive and start taking away market share from NVidia they will be forced to give people what they actually want rather than forcing unwanted features onto gamers.
RTX and DLSS are nice features but they add absolutely nothing to gameplay, all they add is eye candy which after 5mins is forgotten about.
People love to go on about nVidia pricing to what the market will bear, though.
Ultimately nVidia are competing with themselves at the moment, and weirdly they're not even doing well because of the off world choices they've been making. These features are token gestures at best, designed to make people feel like they're missing out if they don't buy in.
We do need AMD to give them a kick in the teeth like they've been doing with Intel though, this drop in value and AMD bringing something interesting out will force nVidia back to this planet.
In the long run though if RTX uptaken then it'll make games designers lives easier with not having to use loads of different artificial lighting to get a certain look to a game map.
Unfortunately we don't seem to be seeing any meaningful demonstrations of it being used in this fashion - taking an older game say Half-Life 1 and replacing the lighting/shadow engine with a hybrid ray tracing solution would I think convey the potential much better.
Small note. AMD doesn't sell cards. MSRP for Vega remained the same during the whole mining craze duration last year. It is the AIBs and shops that raised the price to exuberant levels.
Nvidia on the the other hand completely different matter.
I'm addition, a lot of Vega 64s ended up in the entertainment and professional compute business not mining. The gpu is 90% of the TV100 performance, a gpu 8 times more expensive. I know two companies in York who expanded last year their deep learning farms by buying bulks of Vega 64s and FE. And continue even today buying from the second hand market.
Don't think so.
Having owned both it is a bit of a non contest in favour of Volta.
TV100 also totally destroys Turing in DP work.
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