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Another RTX GPU Moan Thread

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Silent_Scone said:
Most of those commenting have used both, depends on what your requirements are. On the contrary to what you are saying, I need the higher framerates. 4K panels have been "the future" for the last few years since the ST panels launched, nothing has really changed. Unless you count very low sale volumes on HDR units. If we go by your logic, then surely 8K is the real future lol.
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4K is only just getting the support from devs. It will be the main resolution for next gen consoles. Hence the future.

8K won't get any support for probably half a decadeor more.


Fair enough you need high frame rates. All that means is for you that resolution is the sweet spot.does not make it better ;)

BubbySoup said:
It's not the future, there is always something better available.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...18k/apd/210-alez/monitors-monitor-accessories
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As explained above I thought it was obvious what I meant by that comment.


darudeuk said:
Roflmao, most people without 2020 vision can't tell the difference between 4k and 2k

Such decade many 4k panels at 144hz... I see why consoles are so good for 4k gaming, that 30fps is so buttery smooth, I should buy a new xbox.

Anyone buying 8k has autism
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Lol. You just made that up. Not one person I know who has seen my friends 4K monitor and 1440p one said they could not see the difference.

chrcoluk said:
my point is when a tech is invented it doesnt mean its mass adopted right away.

To me 1440p is new I have been using it maybe 3-4 years max. Even when I got my 1440p monitor I was still playing games at a lower resolution initially as the 1440p was brought for desktop real estate rather than for game resolution.

I would say right now its 50/50 whether I play a game full screen 1440p or lower resolution windowed. 1080p remains the most popular gaming resolution in the gaming world, 4k is niche.

For tv's 4k seems a bit more popular, I still have a 1080p tv, but I will acknowledge for tv's its more than niche.

I actually think due to the tv adoption 4k may even be more popular on consoles than pc's.
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Fair point mate.

Though I can see 4K picking up on PC a lot in the near future unless ray tracing actually delivers sooner then we think. If they go towards spending more of the silicon on rtx stuff then it will always be hard to drive 4K at high frame rates which will slow it's adoption. If RTX fails and we go back to normal for the next 5 or so years, then a lot will move over if they prefer better graphics as the horse power will be there to drive it then.
 
GFX-Kid said:
4K is only just getting the support from devs. It will be the main resolution for next gen consoles. Hence the future.

8K won't get any support for probably half a decadeor more.


Fair enough you need high frame rates. All that means is for you that resolution is the sweet spot.does not make it better ;)



As explained above I thought it was obvious what I meant by that comment.



Lol. You just made that up. Not one person I know who has seen my friends 4K monitor and 1440p one said they could not see the difference.



Fair point mate.

Though I can see 4K picking up on PC a lot in the near future unless ray tracing actually delivers sooner then we think. If they go towards spending more of the silicon on rtx stuff then it will always be hard to drive 4K at high frame rates which will slow it's adoption. If RTX fails and we go back to normal for the next 5 or so years, then a lot will move over if they prefer better graphics as the horse power will be there to drive it then.
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I could name you several users off the top of my head on this forum alone that have gone to 4K and then back down to 1440p/3440. So he's certainly not making anything up, it depends on the pixel density as to whether it's worth the investment. Consoles are synonymous with larger panels and slower response times, so it can be made into a more compelling argument. At least a lot more compelling than trying to force feed people with the notion that image fidelity is night and day between the two when it isn't.
 
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Just to add although I game at 1440p or lower, if the performance is on the table, I often downscale or apply sgssaa to get rid of shimmering.

So e.g. right now I have LR open 1440p full screen, but gedosato is running on it and its downscaling from 4k, so effectively I am rendering at 4k in that game.

In GTA5 I use its built in downscaling option.

In the tales games I force SGSSAA on top of 1440p.
 
darudeuk said:
I'm sorry to say but for a pc gaming forum people sound more like console sheep than pc gamers. Since when did any pc gamer with a clue ever care about looks of a game over performance and minimum fps?
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I am a hardcore gamer but I don't care about any of the above, all I care about is gameplay.

The reason for this is I started gaming on the PC in the days when graphics were almost non existent and all games had going for them was the quality of their gameplay.
 
darudeuk said:
Lol, I'm really amused people are on about buying 4k 144hz panels you running 2+ 2080 Tis?

Most people do not game above 60hz,so all this stupidity around 4k and now 8k (your nose would have to be touching a 42" screen to notice any improvement on 8k over 4k) gaming will continue to be a thing. The sad truth is that people obsessed by resolution and low fps are actually getting a worst quality image and experience than 1080p/QHD at 144hz.

Go play at a decent refresh rate, and then go back to your 60hz 4k panel and then sit and cry in the dark because it feels horrible! Mind you, peope like this sound like the sort of folk that play everything on max when trying to be "competitive".

I'm sorry to say but for a pc gaming forum people sound more like console sheep than pc gamers. Since when did any pc gamer with a clue ever care about looks of a game over performance and minimum fps?

There is a reason the likes shroud etc is using a 2080 Ti at 1080p
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24" 1080p is the sweet spot for that play style. If you're not as competitive but still play the genre, then 3440/1440p is an ok compromise. You won't get many competitive gamers using 4K displays...
 
Not everyone is a competitive gamer. 60fps is perfectly playable for most. Pretty sure kaapstad games on a 4k monitor and he does not even have freesync or gsync most you guys go on about.

This argument can be swung in many ways depending on what a users needs are. But I lol when people say they cannot see the difference between 2160p and 1440p on two same sized monitors. Must really need to visit specsavers.

Want a competitive monitor then buy a 1080p 240hz monitor.

Already people are looking for higher specced wide screens and desire 1600p ultrawide over 1440p. Give it a few years and many here will be on 2160p ultrawide ;)
 
JediFragger said:
Tried the 1080p version m8, just too too big. You'd be better pulling your UW an inch or 2 closer to your face, that's what I ended up doing ;)

Plus you'd miss Gsync, trust me (I'm not a Doctor).
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I think it is G-sync? I did skim read but I know what you mean and I can't help but feel the fish eye thing that I used to get over 3 monitors would be back again.
 
Gregster said:
I think it is G-sync? I did skim read but I know what you mean and I can't help but feel the fish eye thing that I used to get over 3 monitors would be back again.
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38in 3840x1600 144hz Gsync LG coming this time next year m8, worth keeping an eye on ;) :cool:

I had the Free-peasant version and that was pretty stunning!
 
GFX-Kid said:
Already people are looking for higher specced wide screens and desire 1600p ultrawide over 1440p. Give it a few years and many here will be on 2160p ultrawide ;)
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True, we will - as long as the refresh rates are there. I don't desire 1600p ultrawide for the resolution bump, i desire it for the 144hz - the resolution bump is a bonus ;)
 
Howling said:
True, we will - as long as the refresh rates are there. I don't desire 1600p ultrawide for the resolution bump, i desire it for the 144hz - the resolution bump is a bonus ;)
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Why not upgrade to 240hz 1080p then? ;)

When the time comez you will also upgrade from a 1600p 144hz to 2160p 144hz ultrawide ;)

Most probably made a post in the past here saying they could not tell the difference between 100hz and 144hz when upgrading (downgrading?) from 1440p 144hz to 100hz 1440p ultrawide I bet :p
 
darudeuk said:
Lol, I'm really amused people are on about buying 4k 144hz panels you running 2+ 2080 Tis?

Most people do not game above 60hz,so all this stupidity around 4k and now 8k (your nose would have to be touching a 42" screen to notice any improvement on 8k over 4k) gaming will continue to be a thing. The sad truth is that people obsessed by resolution and low fps are actually getting a worst quality image and experience than 1080p/QHD at 144hz.

Go play at a decent refresh rate, and then go back to your 60hz 4k panel and then sit and cry in the dark because it feels horrible! Mind you, peope like this sound like the sort of folk that play everything on max when trying to be "competitive".

I'm sorry to say but for a pc gaming forum people sound more like console sheep than pc gamers. Since when did any pc gamer with a clue ever care about looks of a game over performance and minimum fps?

There is a reason the likes shroud etc is using a 2080 Ti at 1080p
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What on earth are you on about. I game on a 4k 60hz screen and its absolutely great! Ive experienced all the monitor resolutions since I splashed out on a 19 inch CRT and never once have i considered crying in the dark.. What a useless post and point of view that you have.
 
Howling said:
Same reason you're not running an 16k 10hz panel (assuming it existed) - there's a balance to be had :)
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So you admit that 100hz to 144hz is not a big deal? If it was you could go to 1080p ultra wide and have higher refresh. Therefore you value resolution more it seems ;)
 
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