GPU Prices high due to to Christmas?

gpuerrilla · 22 Dec 2018 at 21:08

^ wot he sed.

easyrider · 22 Dec 2018 at 21:09

^ wot he sed

Telecaster · 22 Dec 2018 at 21:24

Is it not because the arse keeps falling out of the £ ?

Robin Gregg · 22 Dec 2018 at 21:27

Rezident said:
No, that's the Uber high end of the market for less than 2% of gamers according to Steam. Are you playing at 4k? This is exactly why I stayed at 1440p, still feels like a sweet upgrade from 1080 plus I did not want to have to upgrade GPU all the time. I got an ultrawide curved monitor at 1440p instead and am so glad I did now. Nvidia are merciless!

I got the liquid Vega 64 cheap in the excellent ocuk sale last Christmas and it plays all my games at 1440p as well as VR on my Vive. What do you need 2080 performance for? If you're in the top 2%, then price should not be an issue.

Hi Rez, You got me I'm gaming at 4k with a 980ti.

4K8KW10 · 22 Dec 2018 at 21:52

It all depends on AMD to kill this RTX 2000 series graphics cards due to their high pricing. If Navi competes well between 2080 and 2080 Ti for 450-500 pounds, this RTX series is doomed and nvidia will look for an immediate die shrink.

TrixX · 22 Dec 2018 at 22:00

4K8KW10 said:
It all depends on AMD to kill this RTX 2000 series graphics cards due to their high pricing. If Navi competes well between 2080 and 2080 Ti for 450-500 pounds, this RTX series is doomed and nvidia will look for an immediate die shrink.

Sorry what??? I haven't seen anyone in the industry suggest that Navi would be on par with a 2080Ti. The 2080 would also be a stretch but potentially possible as I've seen one reference to the 1080Ti being the target performance for Navi at it's high end. It's never been suggested to be a counter to Nvidia's top end cards though.

If it does bring 1080 and 1080Ti levels of performance to the $200-350 USD range of cards, that would be more than enough of a blow to Nvidia's bottom line.

spoffle · 22 Dec 2018 at 22:06

Are the Turing cards even selling that well? It's got to be part of the reason why nVidia's share prices halved over the last few months.

ukxenon · 22 Dec 2018 at 22:51

i am going to stick with my old card for a few years this round the prices are too high IMO

opethdisciple · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:14

I actually think GPU prices have come down recently.

2080's at £650 and even £600

gpuerrilla · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:25

spoffle said:
Are the Turing cards even selling that well? It's got to be part of the reason why nVidia's share prices halved over the last few months.

Surely with GPU mining dead there is an abundance of 10 series cards people are snapping up for a reasonable price. With raytracing being too early for games to be worthwhile (and the performance hit is certainly not worth it) theres no need to consider a turing card until the prices drop by a big margin.

easyrider · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:36

Th0nt said:
Surely with GPU mining dead there is an abundance of 10 series cards people are snapping up for a reasonable price. With raytracing being too early for games to be worthwhile (and the performance hit is certainly not worth it) theres no need to consider a turing card until the prices drop by a big margin.

Or until next gen

melmac · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:40

4K8KW10 said:
It all depends on AMD to kill this RTX 2000 series graphics cards due to their high pricing. If Navi competes well between 2080 and 2080 Ti for 450-500 pounds, this RTX series is doomed and nvidia will look for an immediate die shrink.

You are talking like Navi is going to be released next month. It will be June at the earliest. Where are you getting your performance estimates? All the rumours so far put Navi between the 590 and 1080ti in performance.

tamzzy · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:45

melmac said:
Where are you getting your performance estimates?

4k8kw10 is an amd shill. pay no notice lol

4K8KW10 · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:49

tamzzy said:
4k8kw10 is an amd shill.

AMD will save our souls, pay you attention!

tamzzy · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:50

4K8KW10 said:
AMD will save our souls, pay you attention!

no doubt i want amd to do well.
but spouting as much nonsense as you have, it does more to hurt amd than to help.

4K8KW10 · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:52

tamzzy said:
no doubt i want amd to do well.
but spouting as much nonsense as you have, it does more to hurt amd than to help.

If you want to help AMD, sell more of their components and forget the competition!

tamzzy · 22 Dec 2018 at 23:56

4K8KW10 said:
If you want to help AMD, sell more of their components and forget the competition!

errr. no.
that would be betraying my neutrality, and does a dis-service to the posters that ask for help.
something that you clearly don't understand.

Legend · 23 Dec 2018 at 01:57

4K8KW10 said:
If you want to help AMD, sell more of their components and forget the competition!

AMD have a clear market for a certain consumer, and at the low end they don't really have much to worry about. They're doing pretty well there, and in the console sector they also have a very profitable set-up with Microsoft and Sony, which looks set to continue with the next gen consoles. They're hardly struggling or need help!

But when it comes to the top end, Nvidia has this market all to themselves. It's not even clear that AMD have an interest here. The 1080Ti hasn't been touched in years, and the 2080Ti has only furthered that gaping chasm (hence its sky high pricing... the result of zero competition). That's not going to change anytime soon. If you honestly believe we'll have a 2080Ti competitor from AMD this year at half the price... well, I have some incredible magic beans to sell you!

4K8KW10 · 23 Dec 2018 at 07:24

tamzzy said:
errr. no.
that would be betraying my neutrality

But you are not neutral, you show extremely evident intel bias.
I cannot be neutral - the court decided on several occasions that intel are criminals, I cannot take the side of the PC hardware mafia.

tamzzy · 23 Dec 2018 at 09:04

4K8KW10 said:
But you are not neutral, you show extremely evident intel bias.
I cannot be neutral - the court decided on several occasions that intel are criminals, I cannot take the side of the PC hardware mafia.

in the eyes of an amd shill, EVERYONE is biased towards intel even the neutrals, so your statement is taken with an extremely large pinch of salt.
as i said, amd shills are the worst kind of shills, even worse than the intel shills. its no wonder why amd shills are disliked in the tech world. they do more to harm their company than to promote it.

of course, when confronted with their own facts, amd shills bury their head in the sands...

tamzzy said:
cut the bull manure please.
it's well established that 9900k is better than the 2700x for gaming benchmarks on the whole, to the tune of ~10-15%
is it worth the extra outlay in comparison to a 2700x - probably not.
value = 2700x, performance = 9900k.
to argue anything otherwise is just outright lies.

4K8KW10 said:
Ok, I say 9900K is not a better chip and we can stop..

4K8KW10 said:
Crap, you want to convince me that the badly written applications should be taken seriously as performance metrics when choosing a CPU. Never gonna happen with me.

tamzzy said:
indeed, so according to your wprime picture, 9900k scores 86, 2700k scores 95 (9900k is 10% better)
and also according to your frybench picture, 9900k scores 107, 2700k scores 141 (9900k is 31% better)
so 9900k is much better and we should all pick the 9900k!?
well played amd shill, well played....

#amdshillvstheworld innit? :rolleyes:

in any case, if you've decided i've such an intel bias, would you like to prove to me how many amd builds vs how many intel builds i've specced recently, to prove my "intel bias"?