How young is too young (taser related)

Orionaut said:
The 60's were very different to the 80's

The effects of mass immigration (!) didn't really start to bite until the mid/late 70's

The infamous "Operation Swamp" (Broardwater farm) was a police response to a wave of a type of criminal activity (So called "Street Crime") that today we are told to expect as a routine part of day to day life in big cities and yet, before the 1970's was essentially unheard of...

But that is another issue really....
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Yeah it was all the darkies wasn't it. Nothing to do with the population growing in all quarters, massive inequity and the rise of profitable drugs.

All just darkies
 
LabR@t said:
https://news.sky.com/story/how-old-were-the-targets-of-police-tasers-in-your-area-11588513

It looks like Norfolk police tasered someone aged 10-15, Jesus that seems a low much right? I expected Liverpool to be low (13), but I guess Norfolk police are just rubbish.

Personally I think under 16 is wrong, how long until they kill someone? How many deaths by tasers so far?
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12/13 yr old with a knife.
They'll do as much damage as 22 42 82 year old with a knife.
Tase em.
 
About time there was more discipline in society, and with "kids" in general.

I'd support national service, and also the Police beating a few of them up, either with batons in the street, or in custody. Nothing wrong with a bit of a slapdown now and then for the cheeky ones. Might help change their anti social behaviour.

Would like to see some of these little urchins act out with Russian Police, see how far they'd get before a baton to the face.
 
Don't really need to argue against that first stupid point. Could just point to places like South Africa or even your own example of Russia to show that it would be a considerable step in the wrong direction.

Severity is not discipline.

You want to see the little urchins act out with Russian police? I think Russian police are too busy dealing or being a part of the MASSIVE gang problem they have :p
 
h4rm0ny said:
If he was fifteen years old and armed, say with a knife, then a taser makes sense I guess. But I would hope any male police officer should be able to physically overpower a 15 year old. Let alone 10-12.
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There aren't any taught hand-to-hand tactics for dealing with someone with a knife, at any age. The ideal response to a lethal weapon would be a similarly lethal weapon (i.e. a firearm) but Taser at least gives officers an option to engage without having to get too close.


h4rm0ny said:
I remember arguing with the usual suspects about tasers back in the day where they endlessly insisted tasers were great because they were less lethal than firearms. And we all kept saying they wont be used in lieu of firearms but to lower the boundary for force. Which was endlessly dismissed and has been endlessly proved right since.
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They are less lethal than firearms, and they're not used in lieu of firearms but as an additional option to other tactics previously available. Without Taser, the remaining options to most cops are a can of spray which can end up incapacitating everyone in an area, or swinging a stick around, which will inflict more damage and cause more injury than a Taser hit will.

As for the Sky article, the age is fairly immaterial really. Younger people can be and are violent towards police and other people, if their behaviour necessitates use of force to the point of using a Taser, it suggests a level of aggression that had exhausted other means.
 
Good luck identifying my sons age his currently pushing 6 foot at 12 years old! The police need to start taking a harder line with people, after seeing 10 cops arrest two women in Tescos its s joke, should have just tasered them both and chucked them in the meat wagon.
 
I'm in 2 minds about this. Age 10 is the age of criminal responsibility, reference the Jamie Bulger brothers. Age 16 is the age of consent. Age 15 (15-rated films) are when films start to become graphically violent. I think that 15+ is fine. Not 14 or under.
 
if you commit a crime and dont respect authority, then you not too young to be tasered, simple concept really.

most crime around here is committed by people under 18. Finally recognised by the local police as well as one of their priorities.
 
don't care - age shouldn't be a minimum. If you act like a little scrote you should be punished.
 
Trappi$t said:
About time there was more discipline in society, and with "kids" in general.

I'd support national service, and also the Police beating a few of them up, either with batons in the street, or in custody. Nothing wrong with a bit of a slapdown now and then for the cheeky ones. Might help change their anti social behaviour.

Would like to see some of these little urchins act out with Russian Police, see how far they'd get before a baton to the face.
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Find myself agreeing with you.
 
Trappi$t said:
About time there was more discipline in society, and with "kids" in general.

I'd support national service, and also the Police beating a few of them up, either with batons in the street, or in custody. Nothing wrong with a bit of a slapdown now and then for the cheeky ones. Might help change their anti social behaviour.

Would like to see some of these little urchins act out with Russian Police, see how far they'd get before a baton to the face.
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There wouldn't be as much need if parents hands weren't tied when it comes to discipline, a smack on the bum when I was young soon taught me right from wrong. Do that these days and you'll wind up in court on child abuse charges so kids grow up doing bad things not knowing any different, try to ground them or take away their favourite stuff and they'll just threaten running to authorities claiming to have been smacked to get their way anyway. The parents of problem teens can't win because kids have been given all of the power and then as they get older it all spills over into wider society and police are as hobbled as the parents in dealing with it.
 
TheVoice said:
They are less lethal than firearms, and they're not used in lieu of firearms but as an additional option to other tactics previously available. Without Taser, the remaining options to most cops are a can of spray which can end up incapacitating everyone in an area, or swinging a stick around, which will inflict more damage and cause more injury than a Taser hit will.
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Let's be clear here, it's not a stick, it's a metal bar. Hitting someone with an ASP is literally beating them with a metal bar. Unsurprisingly, this often results in injury.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Let's be clear here, it's not a stick, it's a metal bar. Hitting someone with an ASP is literally beating them with a metal bar. Unsurprisingly, this often results in injury.
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Metal bar ?

Don't exaggerate, it's a thin metal rod that even swung hard could hardly break a bone let alone break the skin.
 
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