Are we supposed to feel sorry for him?

Chris Wilson said:
What is it about the UK that makes people hold up ex criminals as suitable candidates to lecture young people on their career? Another dodgy import thankfully sent back, just a few thousand more to go.... We now have a leading Labour MP publicly stating she won't give up her parliamentary status even if given a prison sentence of a year or less, despite being charged with a devious offence. On the bright side cases like this and those who loudly support these criminals just makes the swerve to the Right harder and faster :)
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Which MP is that? I haven't been paying attention.
 
h4rm0ny said:
Which MP is that? I haven't been paying attention.
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Their are two scandal laden Labour MP's at the moment, I can understand your confusion.

Fiona Onasanya on a motoring offence charge to pervert the course of justice and awaiting sentencing and
Kate Osamor who has mercifully now resigned over her drug dealing son's conviction, who was also on the tax payer's payroll.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Would you continue to be a partner of someone who committed such a crime and you never knew about it? :)
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Depends in part on how good looking he was. On the whole, no - I probably would have ditched someone long since if I found they'd committed such a crime. If I knew before / during it the scenario would be me telling him "Don't do this" and if he disregarded it, then that's reason to end it. If I found out after, then that's him lying to me about something that affects us as a couple and that to is reason to end it. I might overlook something that was in the past before our relationship that he neglected to mention, maybe. Because I also have things that I don't want to lead with when I meet someone new and I can understand there's "never a good time". It's cowardly, but I'm saying I might overlook it if I thought they'd changed and it was all in the past. I might, in other circumstances, buy the "pressure made me do it" excuse for some crimes. I can't say I've never overlooked someone's faults because I was attracted to them.

But on the whole, I think you're right. I would be unlikely to have stuck with a guy who let me down like this. So perhaps I should modify my response to chapparel. If he were my partner, I likely wouldn't feel differently. I'd write it off as a bad lot and try to move on with my life. It might be different were he my actual husband and there were children, but as someone else pointed out - in that scenario there's a good chance he wouldn't have been deported in the first place.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Their are two scandal laden Labour MP's at the moment, I can understand your confusion.

Fiona Onasanya on a motoring offence charge to pervert the course of justice and awaiting sentencing and
Kate Osamor who has mercifully now resigned over her drug dealing son's conviction, who was also on the tax payer's payroll.
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Thanks. I thought you might mean the latter but I couldn't see how she'd go to jail over her son's crime.
 
I believe this chap appeared on one of the breakfast shows before his deportation. He appeared very remorseful and genuine and actually from what I remember he'd actively started to do work around prevention of fraud and promoting this. I do feel sorry for him but as people have said perhaps if he'd had family here then the outcome may have been different. It's a tough decision the judge has made particulary as his crime was not violent nor terror related.
 
I thought it was very harsh deporting him after living here for that long, but then I read this part:

If he had been a British citizen his punishment would have ended there. But despite having the right to apply for citizenship he never formalised it
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Oops. He's only got himself to blame for not sorting it out! I do feel bad for him though, must be awful having to move away from everything.
 
Chris Wilson said:
What is it about the UK that makes people hold up ex criminals as suitable candidates to lecture young people on their career? Another dodgy import thankfully sent back, just a few thousand more to go.... We now have a leading Labour MP publicly stating she won't give up her parliamentary status even if given a prison sentence of a year or less, despite being charged with a devious offence. On the bright side cases like this and those who loudly support these criminals just makes the swerve to the Right harder and faster :)
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Hopefully the judge will give her a year and a day in prison.Maybe that should be the minimum sentence for a dishonest scumbag MP. Prisons might fill up quickly though ;)
 
On the wiki page it just says abuse of position and false accounting, i cannot really form an opinion on that at all without knowing the specifics.

But in principal I do not really care what is right or wrong or who is innocent or guilty.

What is more interesting is why you feel so strongly about such a thing.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Their are two scandal laden Labour MP's at the moment, I can understand your confusion.

Fiona Onasanya on a motoring offence charge to pervert the course of justice and awaiting sentencing and
Kate Osamor who has mercifully now resigned over her drug dealing son's conviction, who was also on the tax payer's payroll.
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Surely It's a boon to our society when Westminster attracts such honest and reputable public servants from our ethnic communities, both women as well.
 
shadow_boxer said:
I believe this chap appeared on one of the breakfast shows before his deportation. He appeared very remorseful and genuine and actually from what I remember he'd actively started to do work around prevention of fraud and promoting this. I do feel sorry for him but as people have said perhaps if he'd had family here then the outcome may have been different. It's a tough decision the judge has made particulary as his crime was not violent nor terror related.
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People are always sorry when they get caught.
 
I wonder why the concept of citizenship and borders is being ridiculed in the main stream media so much, it's almost as if they want to eradicate the concept entirely
 
Roar87 said:
I wonder why the concept of citizenship and borders is being ridiculed in the main stream media so much, it's almost as if they want to eradicate the concept entirely
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National identity will always form a contrary power bloc to global interests by its very nature. It localises resistance and limits power by non-national interests. But I suspect your question is rhetorical.
 
I only applied for British Citizenship 5 weeks ago today after living here for over 25 years. Part of it is a 'good character requirement' and if you have shown you don't follow the rules then they do refuse the application, sometimes until x amount of years has passed since the offence, depending what it is. Still waiting but I'm pretty sure I will get approved within the next couple of weeks.

No sympathy whatsoever for this guy, I'm happy he is not here anymore.
 
Those are the laws, and if you're a foreign national wanting to live in this country but also want to ignore said laws and commit criminal acts then you know what you can do! Oh wait.....
 
Not a British cutizen. Doesn't have a British wife or children. Committed a crime. I don't have a problem with him being deported.

chaparral said:
Wonder how many of you would feel the same if it was your girlfriend or boyfriend of many years that was being deported....
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If that person was so important to me that being deported was devatstaing then I would marry them and the deportation would be stopped as he would have a right to stay. Problem solved. Why hasn't his partner done this? Presumably their relationship isn't deep enough for his girlfriend to to do that. Or she also isn't a British citizen.
 
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