What CPUs are 2x as powerful as an FX-8350 in DX12?

[gpuerrilla]

If the leaks are to be believed its certainly worth waiting for the next gen, should find out fairly soon hopefully.

Roughly when is release dates rumoured?

but games dont use all threads so cinebench dont tell you the truth, not in a gaming situation. Less faster cores/thread are the best for gaming, at the moment anyway.

Funnily enough I been playing a lot of Ring of Elysium on this rig and its held back by CPU but not exactly a polished game by a long shot. I fired up Mass Effect Andromeda and the game runs beautifully smooth. Looking forward to upgrading the CPU now though - "I'm Givin' Her All She's Got, Captain!".

 

[greatash]

but games dont use all threads so cinebench dont tell you the truth, not in a gaming situation. Less faster cores/thread are the best for gaming, at the moment anyway.

I don't think that's entirely true anymore, minimum 6c/6t or 4c/8t now and more is often better.

4 thread/cores get destroyed in recent games, even if they are at 5ghz compared to a 3ghz 8 thread chip.

Even watching some YouTube benches with the 6c i5s with a 1080/2070 or higher you can see the CPU reaching very high (80-90+) CPU usage, which is not a good sign if you plan on keeping the thing for a couple years.

 

[Phil2008]

I don't think that's entirely true anymore, minimum 6c/6t or 4c/8t now and more is often better.

4 thread/cores get destroyed in recent games, even if they are at 5ghz compared to a 3ghz 8 thread chip.

Even watching some YouTube benches with the 6c i5s with a 1080/2070 or higher you can see the CPU reaching very high (80-90+) CPU usage, which is not a good sign if you plan on keeping the thing for a couple years.

Games done really benefit going from a 4core to a 6+ cores in frames per second. 4cores are still the sweet spot for gaming.

 

[Vexr]

but games dont use all threads so cinebench dont tell you the truth, not in a gaming situation. Less faster cores/thread are the best for gaming, at the moment anyway.

I'd have agreed a couple of years ago, but I'm asking specifically about DX12 performance as per the thread title, which does use all cores and threads.

For instance, Shadow of the Tomb Raider:

It's thrashing all CPU cores / threads in the hub areas, but still bottlenecked unfortunately.

I'd personally be unwilling to move to anything with less than the 4c/8t the FX-8350 has when upgrading, what with the future being DX12. Higher IPC per core/thread than the FX has is also necessary for older titles, but all of the newer CPUs seem to already have that covered.

 

[Phil2008]

So it does, sorry. I saw a vid review a few weeks ago, I think it was comparing a 8700k with a 9900k, and game performance on both were roughly the same fps wise. All cores were being used but nowhare near 100%.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Unfortunately the FX was not ideal at the time but it did excel at virtualised machines and software that could utilise all the cores. In a tiny amount of games like Battlefield 4 which was using mantle and bothered to cater for AMD hardware it ran absolutely well especially after dice had fixed all the bugs.

Sadly all the games will be targeted or developed for intel machines to be fair. There is a recent discovery that some tasks on the ryzen/epyc cores have gimped scores due to windows kernel. It will be fixed I am sure but highlights how development is far from plain sailing and not generally the hardwares fault when people point fingers.

 

[greatash]

Games done really benefit going from a 4core to a 6+ cores in frames per second. 4cores are still the sweet spot for gaming.

4 core 8 thread sure, but not 4 core 4 thread. big difference in cpu demanding games.