Two storey side extension
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My wife suggested this and it definitely needs some consideration. I do have a separate detacted double garage but an internal single also be useful.
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Not sure if already address but why are the roofs not the same height?
Also in a lot of these designs the utility is the same size as the kitchen, which seems madness to me.
Also in a lot of these designs the utility is the same size as the kitchen, which seems madness to me.
Personally I feel utility rooms are over valued and you need a really big house for it not to be better used.
I had a 3x3m utility at the back of the house that I sacrificed for larger kitchen/breakfast/play area and bigger windows.
This is my utility now, cupboards keep things fairly quiet and they are full sized appliances
Those cupboards for full size units are a good idea. I assume the worktop etc needs to be deeper?
Was it off the shelf cabinets etc?
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I think I remember seeing a build thread for them, but i also wanted to say I am envious that you're extension gives you options of layout. Boundary lines, originial house etc has limited has greatly- without gutting the inside completely.
From what I have read it is because
"Planners prefer house extensions that are visible from the road to be ‘subsidiary’ to the existing house. In effect, the ridge height of the new part of the building is expected to be lower than the main ridge height."
Whether this is true or not I do not know.
I am now considering doing the extension in two stages. Stage 1 add a small single storey extension to the side of the existing kitchen, this is the most practical position for this room anyway. Then Stage 2 add the two storey extension to increase the size of the kids bedrooms upstairs, they are still young so no massive hurry with this. The addition of a utility room now would be far more useful.
This way I get to keep my current kitchen so no need to budget in installing a new one. When I get to phase 2 I would consider knocking through and creating a kitchen diner.
This way I get to keep my current kitchen so no need to budget in installing a new one. When I get to phase 2 I would consider knocking through and creating a kitchen diner.
that seems a much better plan, and if you change your mind the current layout with a utility looks good
The doors look smaller but actually the bottom and top trims pieces are attached and the whole front hinges out.
They are deeper, from memory ~80cm
they were custom made to measure but actually not far off standard kitchen unit price. I did fit and paint them myself however
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Personally if I were going to do that I'd get the planning for a two storey, build the foundations suitable and get bc sign off, install the 1st floor joists then make a nice job of a temporary roof with felt.
That way you've built quite a bit of it and ready to extend it.
Buy all the bricks you would need and if you have space store them. You'll never get the same bricks later. Potentially similar bit they won't have aged the same.
Change the doors from the Living room to the room above so they open into the Living room instead, not into the path of anyone coming thru the other room. You've got a natural thoroughfare with two doors that swing straight out into it. Yes you lose a bit of space, but you don't smack someone coming from east-west across the plan.
That sounds like a good idea.
There is one thing that comes to mind, although it may be a complete non-issue for you, is that you are limited to the amount of your land you can extend on to. It's probably worth checking that by adding one smaller extension now that you won't have to compromise on the size of your larger extension in the future.
If you have a large garden compared to the house footprint then it shouldn't be an issue.
It also helps with other parts like the Roof trusses.
If people ask our advise at planning stage I advise to sit it lower as matching in isn't the simplest job.
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There were planning rules in place which enforced this (or they were around our area - are they region specific?) but have since been revoked so you can now build level to the rest of the house. From what I gather from builders I've spoken to, the planning rules do get tweaked every so often so it could come back in.
Just read through the thread and would like to add that once you've got your plans drawn up, spend £90 with estimators-online, it was the best £90 I spent when doing my extension a few years ago, the detailed cost estimates get emailed to you as a PDF and cover everything, even down to hiring a chemical toilet for the workmen 
https://www.estimators-online.com/
Give them a look, they were spot on with my estimate, with costs based on your location. There are some sample plans on their website here:
https://www.estimators-online.com/samples#.XEdc1B_7Tcs
Once you've got s detailed costing it's harder to get ripped off by builders, you'll be able to sift through the cowboys or rip off merchants.
https://www.estimators-online.com/
Give them a look, they were spot on with my estimate, with costs based on your location. There are some sample plans on their website here:
https://www.estimators-online.com/samples#.XEdc1B_7Tcs
Once you've got s detailed costing it's harder to get ripped off by builders, you'll be able to sift through the cowboys or rip off merchants.
To continue on this thread we put our house up for sale at the end January hoping that something suitable would become available, nothing has and we have also come to the conclusion that we are happy in our current location and plot so have removed it from the market. We have also decided that we probably don't need to expand as much as I initially mocked up.
In the image below you can see we currently have an en-suite which has a macerating toilet, this toilet is garbage and I don't even dare use it, I am assuming this was installed due to the distance from the soil pipe? Anyway I would love to rip this room out and convert to additional storage for Bedrooms 1 and 3.
So my main question is really how far away is too far for a proper toilet!?
For instance would something like this be possible( toilet positions rather than bathroom size and layouts)?
Thanks
In the image below you can see we currently have an en-suite which has a macerating toilet, this toilet is garbage and I don't even dare use it, I am assuming this was installed due to the distance from the soil pipe? Anyway I would love to rip this room out and convert to additional storage for Bedrooms 1 and 3.
So my main question is really how far away is too far for a proper toilet!?
For instance would something like this be possible( toilet positions rather than bathroom size and layouts)?
Thanks
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