£1500 build

WinDrop

WinDrop

WinDrop

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Hi Guys,

No doubt people here are way more experienced when it comes to building new rigs than I am.
I'm looking to build a £1500 rig however I do not need a video card as I already own a GTX 1070Ti.

It will be used for development so concentrating more on that rather than gaming components.

I'm not too fuss about AMD or Intel (No SLI planned) as long as it performs and because of this I'm bit torn apart between getting something now or waiting for Ryzen 3 to be released?
No need for monitors, keyboards or mice, already have all of that. Not too fuss about case size, can be Full size if it means better air flow and better cooling.

What would you suggest?

Thanks.
 
Hi WinDrop,

How many drives might you have in the system eventually?

What sort of development - do the programs use all the RAM thrown at them - are any of them known to benefit from using a separate scratch/cache disk - are they known to play better with Intel than AMD despite the latter's raw power for the money?

It's a great budget since you already have monitors and GPU. Depending on the answers may not really need to use absolutely all of it.
 
WinDrop said:
Hi Guys,

No doubt people here are way more experienced when it comes to building new rigs than I am.
I'm looking to build a £1500 rig however I do not need a video card as I already own a GTX 1070Ti.

It will be used for development so concentrating more on that rather than gaming components.

I'm not too fuss about AMD or Intel (No SLI planned) as long as it performs and because of this I'm bit torn apart between getting something now or waiting for Ryzen 3 to be released?
No need for monitors, keyboards or mice, already have all of that. Not too fuss about case size, can be Full size if it means better air flow and better cooling.

What would you suggest?

Thanks.
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by development , what programs will you be running ?
 
Thanks guys. Didn't think to mention programs.
So it's a combination of both CPU and RAM.
Programs used will be Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code.
Whilst Visual Studio Code is basically a fancy text editor, the full version of it uses a lot of RAM and then even more CPU whilst project builds.

So in reality, both RAM and CPU are important.
RAM - For usage and having multiple instances running
CPU - For building the project
 
Also, with drives, I was thinking 512GB SSD for OS and programs and then either another 512GB for data or a 2TB normal drive.
There won't be many files on there, so really, whatever is cheaper would work perfectly
 
intel IMC and board design allows you to get away with 4 ram sticks easier - not have to worry about b-die etc . only problem is... the cost ! and 8 core 16 thread non K isn't out yet .
Gigabyte and ASRock tend to test 4 sticks more then 2 sticks, whilst ASUS/MSI is the opposite and test 2 sticks- shows in asus flagships being onl 2 dimm to break records.

also Gigabyte and ASUS Z390 boards now allow 32gb sticks to be used via bios update. rest should follow - dont think intel was pleased with this as bypasses X299 chipset

damn, remember visual basics days haha
 
Found the following:


What about perf?
Developers develop, right? A nice .NET benchmark is to compile Orchard Core both "cold" and "warm." I use .NET Core 2.1 downloaded from http://www.dot.net.

Orchard is a fully-featured CMS with 143 projects loaded into Visual Studio. MSBUILD and .NET Core in 2.1 support both parallel and incremental builds.

...

In my testing it doesn't appear that spreading the build across 20 processors is a problem. I tried just 10 (physical processors) and it builds in 12 seconds. With 20 processors (10 with hyperthreading, so 20 logical) it builds in 9.6 seconds so there's clearly a law of diminishing returns here.

https://www.hanselman.com/blog/Buil...C30ThePartsListForMyNewComputerIronHeart.aspx
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Would this type of benchmark be relevant to some of your own workloads? The chap is using an i9-7900X paired with a regular SSD. In the comments section, we can see his score beaten out by owners of i7-8700 and NVME SSDs for example. So maybe something "in-between", enough cores without sacrificing clockspeed and IPC. And of course NVME SSD.


Threadripper 1950x - stock
32 GB 3200Mhz C14 B-die memory
Samsung 950 pro M.2 512 GB SSD

Cold: 25.6 sec

Warm: 8.9 sec
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Cold: 24-25 secs (multiple runs)
Warm: 9.8-10 secs

My specs
MB: Asus ROG Strix H370-I Gaming
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700
RAM: 16GB (2x8) 2666MHz CL16 with XMP enabled
SSD: Samsung EVO 970 500GB
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Dell XPS Desktop (about $1000)
- i7-8700 (non K)
- 16GB Ram
- 256 NVME

Cold: 24.7sec Warm: 9.7sec
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Really not much between the 16 core/32 thread 'Ripper and the 6 core/12 thread 8700 (latter aren't even overclocked).

Maybe an i9-9900K, few more cores and threads than 8700, and overclockable? And that as a treat/splurge. Diminishing returns and all that.
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,509.99 (includes shipping: £11.10)


lacks case though....​

intel

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,258.04 (includes shipping: £11.10)


kicker is, 12 core Ryzen 3***​
 
Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm definitely more inclined towards Intel in this case due to
1. 9900K is faster than Ryzen
2. Cost
3. I've always been intel fan but that's not important lol :D

Would you recommend to wait for Ryzen 3 to come out later this year? Do you think it will gain a lot compared to 9900K?
 
Check out youtube reviews of the new Phanteks P600S (comes in more colours). It comes with airflow and with silent options.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,396.94 (includes shipping: £14.10)​
​

Beast of a power supply with 12 year warranty if you don't mind paying more for peace of mind. Mobo with two M.2 slots in case you ever need to add another NVME drive. Ugly RAM but will be covered by cooler.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
Better warranty.

10 years, 2 less but Corsair just replace the unit with a new one instead of repairing :D
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Very nice.


orbitalwalsh said:
Gun metal would match the Aorus board perfectly !
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I like the gun metal as well. Still, the cooler and GPU will hide much of the board. It's a pity the Noctua Chromax covers are so expensive or an NH-D15S cooler with white chromax would look great.
 
Thanks again for all the advise.

Danny75 said:
Check out youtube reviews of the new Phanteks P600S (comes in more colours). It comes with airflow and with silent options.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,396.94 (includes shipping: £14.10)
​

Beast of a power supply with 12 year warranty if you don't mind paying more for peace of mind. Mobo with two M.2 slots in case you ever need to add another NVME drive. Ugly RAM but will be covered by cooler.
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Don't really care about how pretty it looks as it's a work machine. Also, only needs to last 3 years as getting a replacement after 3 years so whilst having a PSU with amazing warranty is great, don't think it's needed and money can be spent on other things instead :)
I think I now have the basic idea on what's possible to build with the budget. I will read some reviews on Ryzen 3 which should be released in few months and see if it's worth the wait for it as they promise quite a big performance increase with it but need to double check the info before sticking to it.

Again, thanks for all the help guys. I'll let you know what I've stopped on once final decision has been made :)
 
WinDrop said:
Thanks again for all the advise.



Don't really care about how pretty it looks as it's a work machine. Also, only needs to last 3 years as getting a replacement after 3 years so whilst having a PSU with amazing warranty is great, don't think it's needed and money can be spent on other things instead :)
I think I now have the basic idea on what's possible to build with the budget. I will read some reviews on Ryzen 3 which should be released in few months and see if it's worth the wait for it as they promise quite a big performance increase with it but need to double check the info before sticking to it.

Again, thanks for all the help guys. I'll let you know what I've stopped on once final decision has been made :)
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computex- June for ryzen 3*** , last time it didn't make it and was after . Q2 is technically the weakest selling quarter for hardware
 
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