Miss 2+2=3 appointed to labour's ruling body

stockhausen said:
Simple answer, actually three of them:
  1. She is Black
  2. She is a Woman
  3. She believes in Socialism
All pretty compelling dog whistles for the racist, sexist, Tory Brexiteers on here ;)
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Absolute crap.

There are numerous black female Labour MP’s who clearly believe in socialism the difference is they are competent and intelligent and haven’t got where they are by sucking up to the party leader (in more ways than one) and are not hypocrites and don’t consistently go on TV and radio making themselves look stupid which Abbott has a considerable talent for.

You conveniently forget to mention the Conservatives have ethnic minority female MP’s also but that won’t serve your agenda would it?
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
She also claimed 150,000 in expenses in 2009 during the scandal, I can see why you love her so much Stockhausen, ticks all your social justice boxes.
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You are right, that is absolutely awful.

Do you have a breakdown for this huge expense claim? Did she claim for clearing the moat round her estate? Did she claim for a duck house on her lake? Does she pay a huge salary to members of her extended family? I am quite sure that she has many unpaid Interns subsided by their tax-dodging Daddies.
Scania said:
Absolute crap.

There are numerous black female Labour MP’s who clearly believe in socialism the difference is they are competent and intelligent and haven’t got where they are by sucking up to the party leader (in more ways than one) and are not hypocrites and don’t consistently go on TV and radio making themselves look stupid which Abbott has a considerable talent for.

You conveniently forget to mention the Conservatives have ethnic minority female MP’s also but that won’t serve your agenda would it?
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Quite, I overlooked the many Black Socialist Women Tory MPs.

I also overlooked the white, wealthy and utterly incompetent Mrs Teresa May ;)

ps - I agree that Diane Abbott has a remarkable capacity for putting her foot in her mouth on TV and Radio. Personally I find her patronising, pedantic, whiny voice very irritating.

However, she does seem to believe in trying to create a better, fairer Society which is more than most Tories do.

Her past liaison with some at the time obscure, unmarried MP doesn't worry me at all.
 
stockhausen said:
You are right, that is absolutely awful.

Do you have a breakdown for this huge expense claim? Did she claim for clearing the moat round her estate? Did she claim for a duck house on her lake? Does she pay a huge salary to members of her extended family? I am quite sure that she has many unpaid Interns subsided by their tax-dodging Daddies.
Quite, I overlooked the many Black Socialist Women Tory MPs.

I also overlooked the white, wealthy and utterly incompetent Mrs Teresa May ;)

ps - I agree that Diane Abbott has a remarkable capacity for putting her foot in her mouth on TV and Radio. Personally I find her patronising, pedantic, whiny voice very irritating.

However, she does seem to believe in trying to create a better, fairer Society which is more than most Tories do.

Her past liaison with some at the time obscure, unmarried MP doesn't worry me at all.
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Maybe some of it was for private school fees for her kids? You know, those schools the Labour party rails against so loudly?

Which obscure unmarried MP did she have a liaison with, I have only read of Corbyn using her to promote his ideology like those supposed Greens that drive around in electric cars?
 
@stockhausen is a perfect example of whataboutism... Defending the utterly useless Diane Abbott because other people are as bad or worse. Maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. But it doesn't change the fact that she is inept and believed by many to have reached her position because of sleeping with the boss and ticking all the right social justice boxes.

I can't stand her. But it's nothing to do with her being black, being a woman, or being politically left. I just think she is utterly useless and quite frankly dangerous to society if she ever got into government.

The current Conservative government are also useless and at times like this we need a strong and credible opposition party. Yet all we have are this comedy duo of Abbot and Corbstello. If David Milliband were to come back and lead the Labour party I would vote for them in a shot. But with this pair in charge I simply can't consider it. They are the worst of a pair of useless parties.
 
Not to mention she is clearly a racist herself and has been caught out on twitter before
 
Hades said:
@stockhausen is a perfect example of whataboutism... Defending the utterly useless Diane Abbott because other people are as bad or worse. Maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. But it doesn't change the fact that she is inept and believed by many to have reached her position because of sleeping with the boss and ticking all the right social justice boxes.
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As long as he can cry "racism" at anyone he perceives to be right wing and misuse words like "dogwhistle" then I think he's all good.

Re: Abbot and her IQ, she's obviously managed to get herself into a top university and make a successful career in politics and quite likely to have a higher than average IQ. I wouldn't be surprised if her's was low relative to other front benchers though.

Labour voters tend to have lower IQs relative to other voters anyway - similar to UKIP voters.
 
ttaskmaster said:
OK, I'll give you what you want - I have absolutely no way of knowing anyone's IQ. There, happy? My remark still stands.

******** - I wrote a joke comprising a single sentence. You've turned it into a ******* mission, specifically against me and ignoring all those who made similar remarks before and after my own, incidentally, so I presume it's personal? So come on, then - You've clearly got an axe to grind... What's your ******* problem?
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Very happy, you could have just answered that way to begin with as it's you who decided to turn the whole thing into some **** show with some next level deflection.

It isn't a mission against you, you were the only one who made those specific remarks and it didn't come across like you were joking at all. If you were, then my apologies.
 
ttaskmaster said:
May was voted in. Abbott wasn't. Corbyn broke the rules and abused his position. That's quite why.
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May was not voted into that job by the electorate, she inherited the post when her predecessor resigned in shame for the calamity that is Brexit. May then displayed her mettle at the ballot box by throwing away Cameron's majority and replaced it with the DUPs ball and chain.

When the inevitable inquiry into the Brexit disaster takes shape, I doubt very much that "Abbott's appointment to Labour's Ruling Body" will be on the long list of ashes to rake through. For all her faults, she's an incredibly easy target right now. The OP isn't setting the bar very high when it comes to satire, and that's unfortunate considering what's on offer.
 
String said:
May was not voted into that job by the electorate, she inherited the post when her predecessor resigned in shame for the calamity that is Brexit. May then displayed her mettle at the ballot box by throwing away Cameron's majority and replaced it with the DUPs ball and chain.
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She stood as leader in a General Election. I think that's what is meant and what matters. Contrast, say, Gordon Brown, who inherited Prime Ministership from Tony Blair and never fought a General Election. May was in the same boat, but having called a General Election (disastrous though it was), she no longer is.
 
h4rm0ny said:
She stood as leader in a General Election. I think that's what is meant and what matters. Contrast, say, Gordon Brown, who inherited Prime Ministership from Tony Blair and never fought a General Election. May was in the same boat, but having called a General Election (disastrous though it was), she no longer is.
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She campaigned on the back of an existing inherited majority, and she did it in a cynical attempt at grabbing additional power to aid her Brexit plans. I'll admit, even she couldn't have imagined her plans would turn out to be so bad that the increase in majority required would be circa. 230 but there you go, she's not the first politician to be blind sided by her own breathtaking incompetence. Empowering the hideous DUP in the process was incredibly ironic when you consider why she broke with the fixed term parliament comfort blanket in the first place.

But hey, Diane Abbot gave Corbyn a BJ in nineteen-canteen so let's get stuck in and rip her a new one.
 
ttaskmaster said:
She was voted by her party (as per the regulations) to be their leader, which then made her the PM by default.
Regulations state that Abbott should have been similarly elected to this NEC role by her lot, but that did not happen in this instance. That is what the problem is.
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Theresa May stood unopposed in that "election".

ttaskmaster said:
It won't be high... but if ever Corbyn's socialist wet-dream comes true, you can bet she'll be the whipping boy for a LOT of the inevitable problems.
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That particular wet dream will not come true, something May banked on when she decided not to even speak with him in public during her election "campaign"... until she was advised that her utter arrogance was damaging her credibility, even if Corbyn couldn't.

Like I say, there's a wealth of ammo to choose from here and I've only mentioned 1 other politician so far. Abbot may be condescending and incompetent, but she's the least of our worries.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Really?
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Yes, really.

On 11 July, Leadsom announced her withdrawal from the leadership contest hours after May had made her first official campaign speech, saying her lack of support amongst Conservative MPs compared to May would be too great a hindrance to becoming a credible Prime Minister.[143] As the sole remaining candidate, May was formally declared Leader of the Conservative Party that evening
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