Liam Neeson race row - he wanted to kill a black man!

VincentHanna · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:07

If you used to be racist and aren't anymore (which I think is the case with Neeson), and happen to be a high profile actor I would suggest

A) Keeping it to yourself
or
B) Joining together with an anti-racism campaign to tell your story.

Don't just randomly tell a journalist whilst trying to promote a movie...

AHarvey · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:14

omnomnom said:
""I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody - I'm ashamed to say that - and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [uses air quotes with fingers] 'black b word' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him.""

I take that as he regrets the action of wanting to kill someone. He did not need to mention a race here at all...

If someone i know is assaulted or raped I dont immediately ask them what race they were...I sure as hell done roam the streets hoping to kill someone of that race. That is some deep-rooted racism.

You're applying modern day logic and understanding to a time when people didn't think as we do now. Society has a whole has 'mostly' moved on from those times.

He went on the only information he had at the time, he was a bad black guy and that is what he was hoping would approach him. Not just any black guy, an evil one. I can fully understand the want for revenge, my friend was recently date raped in China while on a works trip, she's taken it amazingly well, they've caught him but the sentence for rape can be death, and she's more worried about that. Me, i'd string him up by his nuts and add weights to his wrists until his junk tore off and he bled to death. We all take things differently.

The problem is, you're not seeing that someone has recognised their own failings and has moved on from them. We can all change and we shouldn't judge people on their beliefs of past if they don't match their beliefs of current.

wunkley · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:18

Oooohh let’s all be outraged about a man actually being honest about something he felt (felt, not did!) when he was a young man. And then regretted.

Because honesty (and truth) isn’t a virtue that’s worth signalling by all the cretinous sjw twitter mob that will be loving this ****.

mmj_uk · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:27

Well hopefully his comments will create some kind of debate about the stupidity of treating people as collective groups (identity politics) rather than as unique individuals.

Roland Butter · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:28

wunkley said:
Oooohh let’s all be outraged about a man actually being honest about something he felt when he was a young man. And then regretted!

Because honesty (and truth) isn’t a virtue that’s worth signalling by all the cretinous sjw twitter mob that will be loving this ****.

Not really helpful, being outraged is important for some people, cathartic almost, indignation is the new Rock n Roll.

Gerard · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:31

jsmoke said:
I can imagine NI has/had a very racist/prejudice streak. Human nature init.

In loyalist areas mainly i would say, you hear all the time of foreigners being intimidated out of their areas. New housing developments and houses up for let sometimes get daubed with "locals only" graffiti. A lot of those areas if you're not white protestant you won't last long in the place.

Simple fact about "NI" is for years and years all you seen were white faces. If you seen a black man odds are he was a doctor, if you seen someone who was oriental odds were he owned a takeaway. When i was at school from p1 upto 6th year there was 1 black school kid i seen in all those years. Obviously the troubles played a big part in keeping "NI" mostly caucasian (who wants to go to live in a place with bombs going off left and right?), now thats over you see more and more different races and religions appearing.

wunkley · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:34

Roland Butter said:
Not really helpful, being outraged is important for some people, cathartic almost, indignation is the new Rock n Roll.

The thing is the twitter mob and dim general public cattle are not really outraged, they are not being honest with themselves. It’s all faux outrage. Third party outrage.

I’d be genuinely outraged if someone raped my mum. Especially as she’s dead.
I don’t get genuinely outraged about things that happen, or things that don’t happen more often, to people I don’t actually even know. Third party outrage.

dowie · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:43

wolfie138 said:
well done for just highlighting the black aspect. i bet if the story had been a white rapist and him hanging around trying to find a white scumbag to kill, this wouldn't have been an issue.

Well he could have just killed himself in that case, he is white!

If you don't understand the black aspect

Angilion said:
A lesser, but still important, distinction is that he wasn't "wandering the streets with a weapon wanting to murder a random black person". If he had been, he would have at least attacked someone. He didn't. Or are you seriously suggesting that he was completely unable to find any "black" person anywhere?

Well he basically was, he wasn't wandering the streets looking to defend himself using reasonable force he was wandering the streets hoping to have an excuse to kill someone. Whether or not that might have ended up as a manslaughter charge or even if he had actually got away with it we know from his own admission what his actual intent was.

[FnG]magnolia · 5 Feb 2019 at 10:49

I wonder how many GD'ers were reading the story, nodding along, and genuinely wondering what the uproar was about. I would put serious money on at least four I can think of without even trying.

Slightly separate note - dowie, you continue to amaze me with your posts and threads where I'm not even remotely onboard with your view and then every now and again, like this time, you decide to slam dunk the funk and catch me off guard and I agree with you. Something something clock right twice a day (me, not you)?

Jono8 · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:00

[FnG]MUGnolia said:
I wonder how many GD'ers were reading the story, nodding along, and genuinely wondering what the uproar was about. I would put serious money on at least four I can think of without even trying.

Slightly separate note - dowie, you continue to amaze me with your posts and threads where I'm not even remotely onboard with your view and then every now and again, like this time, you decide to slam dunk the funk and catch me off guard and I agree with you. Something something clock right twice a day (me, not you)?

The best comments are the ones saying how it isnt racism, when what he did was pretty much as good an example as you could give of racial profiling and racism.

Jono8 · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:03

omnomnom said:
""I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody - I'm ashamed to say that - and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [uses air quotes with fingers] 'black b word' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him.""

I take that as he regrets the action of wanting to kill someone. He did not need to mention a race here at all...

What!?

"and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [uses air quotes with fingers] 'black b word' "

Angilion · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:07

Jono8 said:
The best comments are the ones saying how it isnt racism, when what he did was pretty much as good an example as you could give of racial profiling and racism.

It was racism. Not is racism. If he was doing it now or advocating it now, responses would generally be very different.

He didn't actually do any harm. It's not like he was a racist, multiple murdering terrorist like, for example, Nelson Mandela.

h4rm0ny · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:08

[FnG]MUGnolia said:
I wonder how many GD'ers were reading the story, nodding along, and genuinely wondering what the uproar was about. I would put serious money on at least four I can think of without even trying.

Make sure that I'm on your mental count of members. "Man no longer racist" - I also wonder what the uproar is about.

AmyS · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:09

It sounds pretty racist to me, especially using the term “black b*****d” all these years later.

His thinking it terrible seems to be more for the revenge aspect than the racist element.

wunkley · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:10

Angilion said:
It was racism. Not is racism. If he was doing it now or advocating it now, responses would generally be very different.

He didn't actually do any harm. It's not like he was a racist, multiple murdering terrorist like, for example, Nelson Mandela.

No point using dialectic argument and fact based points with blinkered leftists bud. They literally do not Compute.

Jono8 · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:15

Angilion said:
It was racism. Not is racism. If he was doing it now or advocating it now, responses would generally be very different.

He didn't actually do any harm. It's not like he was a racist, multiple murdering terrorist like, for example, Nelson Mandela.

Haha, seriously?

Yes, it was in the past. We know that. It doesnt stop it being racist.

cainer · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:17

well i guess that's his career over, see ya

omnomnom · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:20

Jono8 said:
What!?

"and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [uses air quotes with fingers] 'black b word' "

Not following?

wunkley · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:21

Jono8 said:
Haha, seriously?

Yes, it was in the past. We know that. It doesnt stop it being racist.

Do you not understand the concept of time and language. Was and is are very different propositions.

Maybe 40 years ago he had some racist feelings. Maybe now, he doesn’t.

How does the leftist cattle brain parse Michael Jackson being black and over time becoming white. That must blow your addled mind.

VincentHanna · 5 Feb 2019 at 11:23

Angilion said:
He didn't actually do any harm. It's not like he was a racist, multiple murdering terrorist like, for example, Nelson Mandela.

White man not racist for wanting to kill random black people

Black man racist despite speeches like this:

We must work for the day when we, as South Africans, see one another and interact with one another as equal human beings and as part of one nation united, rather than torn asunder, by its diversity. The road we shall have to travel to reach this destination will by no means be easy. All of us know how stubbornly racism can cling to the mind and how deeply it can infect the human soul. Where it is sustained by the racial ordering of the material world, as is the case in our country, that stubbornness can multiply a hundred-fold.

And yet however hard the battle will be, we will not surrender. Whatever the time it will take, we will not tire. The very fact that racism degrades both the perpetrator and the victim commands that, if we are true to our commitment to protect human dignity, we fight on until victory is achieved.