metered vs unmetered water

Just gone through United utilities calculator.

Currently im paying £660.61.
With a meter i would be paying £1018.82.

Yeah so wont be getting one.
 
robj20 said:
1000 liters that's nothing bet I use that in a week.
Probably about 4 baths a week that holds at least 150liters.
Fish tank gets a 50% change every week, that's 100 liters.
Then you have the jetwash both cars every week over winter, showers every day, washing up twice a day.
Baby bath is probably 10 liters a day.
Baby steriliser is 5 liters a day.
It all adds up pretty quick.
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I looked up the supplier for Manchester area, they give the cost per cubic metre as £1.78,
1,000 litres is equivalent to:

  • 3,300 cups of tea
  • 28 showers
  • 13 baths
  • flushing the toilet more than a hundred times
 
Yea, it's the equivalent to "one" of those, not all four of those added together. 1000 litres is nothing! You would use 1000 litres / month just having a shower and doing nothing else, no drinking, no washing machine, no flushing the toilet.
 
Usher said:
I looked up the supplier for Manchester area, they give the cost per cubic metre as £1.78,
1,000 litres is equivalent to:

  • 3,300 cups of tea
  • 28 showers
  • 13 baths
  • flushing the toilet more than a hundred times
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Dont know where you got that from.
"1 cubic metre equals 1,000 litres of water, and this costs around £3."
 
Kol said:
1000 litres is nothing! You would use 1000 litres / month
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per month yes, but, as commented, £54 p/m exclusively for unmetered water is ~ 1m^3 a day ... I think there would be a leak.

... still it may be in the interest of water board calculators to underestimate benefit of a meter ... install is down to them ... £1000's ?
 
It's not though is it. It's £3 per 1000 liters with my supplier.

I'm paying approximately £1.80 a day.

According to the calculator in using £2.78 in metered water. So not quite 1000 liters a day on average.

I bet peak summer I put more than that on the garden each morning.
 
wow so water in Manchester is 2x the 152.88p anglian water take ...Northern tax and you have reservoirs/reserves.

[ but 1000 a day is nonetheless enormous, you previously betted you used that in a week, which was more reasonable but doesn't = £54p/m...?? ]
 
robj20 said:
Dont know where you got that from.
"1 cubic metre equals 1,000 litres of water, and this costs around £3."
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From the current website
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for your area, £1.780 per cubic metre
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So you have been comparing purely the price per 1000 liter forgetting my £54 includes everything.

Now add the standing charge and sewerage. Lol
No wonder you think meters are so cheap. Your also using old prices try the 2018/2019 ones.

I pay £1.80 a day all in.

Standing charges on a meter.
£141.57 / year.

Then you have £3.095 per m3 to pay.
 
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robj20 said:
So you have been comparing purely the price per 1000 liter forgetting my £54 includes everything.

Now add the standing charge and sewerage. Lol
No wonder you think meters are so cheap.

I pay £1.80 a day all in.
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We average £320 per year for a 4 bed detatched, that's about 85p a day
 
robj20 said:
That's meaningless without the liters used and rates.
I could well use double or triple the amount of water in which case £1.80 a day is brilliant.
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Well all I can tell you is that before the meter was fitted approx 5 years ago our water bill was £660 based purely on our property value.
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Usher said:
Well all I can tell you is that before the meter was fitted approx 5 years ago our water bill was £660 based purely on our property value.
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Still meaningless your neighbors would have been the same amount but he could have been filling an Olympic pool every week.

Any calculator I try tells me in much better off unmetered as I would be paying £300+ more on a meter.
 
£9.50 per month all in here. Single person, hardly ever at home. Live in the cheapest supply area also. Happy days.

I believe in universal metering. Its the only way to be sure.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Well it won't matter soon enough, as we'll all be on smart meters by law
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Do you have a source for this? I heave not heard of this being proposed. As far as i am aware, current ongoing meter installs are in no way smart. There is also a big issue that most meters are nowhere near a power supply and buried deep in the ground with no cell coverage, so how is that proposed to work?
 
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Getting power to most meters would be a total nightmare, surely? This is nothing like electrical smart metering where the meter by default has power, or gas metering which is available only when the meter is inside the house.

Most meters are outside, buried in peoples gardens far from the house, or buried in tarmac/slabbed surfaces in the street. This would be a total nightmare and cost a fortune to even approach getting power to them.

The data question is also a very valid one, the monitoring you speak of is worth the investment to take infrastructure down to these places, this is rather different to somehow repeating a cell signal to every single underground meter in the country.

Cant see it...not in our lifetime anyway!
 
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