Liam Neeson race row - he wanted to kill a black man!

Fubsy said:
That's how I've seen it. However I can't speak for any black person, but I'm sure hearing his comments and what he did must be sickening to their core considering the historical violent racism they have faced and in some places of the world continue to face.
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Yeah, no doubt what he did was awful.
 
Nitefly said:
Isn’t the whole point of his comments that he himself, and everyone, is capable of racist or otherwise disturbing primal behaviour, and that we should be open and acknowledge this rather than pretending we are above it all.
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I think that is part of the problem, if he expected everyone to empathise with his feelings there then he was sorely mistaken. Sure nearly everyone is capable of primeval behaviour* (in a very general sense) but plenty of people wouldn't want to lash out or kill someone based on their race simply because someone else from that race did something. I don't think anyone needs to pretend they're above doing something like that, I'd hope most people would be.

*wanting to kill the actual rapist would perhaps be more understandable while also being primeval behaviour and rather wrong if you otherwise don't believe in the death penalty and/or extra judicial punishment.
 
dowie said:
I think that is part of the problem, if he expected everyone to empathise with his feelings there then he was sorely mistaken. Sure nearly everyone is capable of primeval behaviour (in a very general sense) but plenty of people wouldn't want to lash out or kill someone based on their race simply because someone else from that race did something. I don't think anyone needs to pretend they're above doing something like that, I'd hope most people would be.
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Yes, that’s why he felt awful about it.

I’m not defending his specific actions but he was clearly very aggrieved by the situation, in a terrible place, and did a terrible thing as a result, which he regrets. He probably felt really guilty about it for years which is why he brought it up.

Fortunately, nothing terrible occurred as a result of his racism at that time.
 
Don't see anything wrong with what he said.

Everyone has races they don't particularly like, or like more than others, for whatever reason, at whatever time, me included.

Also it's great publicity for his new film... hope he carries on making more love watching him on screen!
 
A2Z said:
Don't see anything wrong with what he said.

Everyone has races they don't particularly like, or like more than others, for whatever reason, at whatever time, me included.

Also it's great publicity for his new film... hope he carries on making more love watching him on screen!
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Please tell us more about your race hierarchy?
 
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Fubsy said:
It wasn't hard to pull back from, it was natural to realise the BS i'd been surrounded by and reject it. It was never a mindset that I had formed myself, it was growing up with a person who constantly made remarks about people with other backgrounds, nationalities and skin colour and upon going out into the world myself realised he was just full of ****. However, I could easily see how people can get sucked in and people raised around that could have their mind so badly warped by it that there's little chance of return.

It's those people that have been sucked in that need the education and help to realise that the way they think can be destructive to themselves and innocent people they interact with.
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it's not surprising tbh. winston churchill was a white supremacist and strong supporter of eugenics. a lot of people from older generations are racist and not just white people too. i overheard a chinese woman being racist towards indians on a flight to london. when it was pointed out to her there was an indian sitting behind her she just laughed it off.

what do i think of liam neeson the fact he came out in public and said what he said proves to me he isn't racist as he was talking about something which happened a long time ago. it's the ones who still hold these views today and don't disclose it and go out to attack people from another race are the ones we need to do something about.

why is nobody going after churchill's legacy for instance? why hasn't he been stripped of all his commendations? what he said was a million times worse than neeson
 
A2Z said:
Don't see anything wrong with what he said.

Everyone has races they don't particularly like, or like more than others, for whatever reason, at whatever time, me included.

Also it's great publicity for his new film... hope he carries on making more love watching him on screen!
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has he played any different character since taken? it's the same role just in a different movie. just shows how much you know about acting.
 
FoxEye said:
Most of them are **** awful. And that has nothing to do with any of this. They're just awful films, mostly.
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I missed this yesterday. Yes, they don't look like the kind of films I'd enjoy. They always struck me as a bit "Batman without a cape".
 
Psycho Sonny said:
has he played any different character since taken? it's the same role just in a different movie. just shows how much you know about acting.
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Yeah. He’s played a couple of pretty epic roles in his time, Oskar Schindler being one of them. Strange how since Taken he’s become so one dimensional though.
 
These films are probably a lot of fun to make. I doubt he needs the money for himself now.

He is one of the biggest faces involved with UNICEF.
 
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Didn't he say he would feel the same had it been a Brit or Irish? The interview was a bit mumbled at that point.

If he did, then as a Brit myself I'd be happy to feel outraged. Let me know and I'll make a Twitter post.
 
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dowie said:
I think that is part of the problem, if he expected everyone to empathise with his feelings there then he was sorely mistaken. Sure nearly everyone is capable of primeval behaviour* (in a very general sense) but plenty of people wouldn't want to lash out or kill someone based on their race simply because someone else from that race did something. I don't think anyone needs to pretend they're above doing something like that, I'd hope most people would be.

*wanting to kill the actual rapist would perhaps be more understandable while also being primeval behaviour and rather wrong if you otherwise don't believe in the death penalty and/or extra judicial punishment.
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I think after Pearl harbour the American hatred of the Japanese was pretty universal, Do we need to pretend that this didn't happen too?
 
dowie said:
Brilliant :D
But he didn't just think something, he went wandering the streets armed with a weapon hoping he'd get the chance to kill a black person, that he didn't is more down to him not being presented with the situation where he could rather than anything he didn't do.

(not to mention that his scenario is perhaps rather hard to pull off than perhaps he thought at the time where he imagined that black people in a black area would just randomly attack him).
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He never killed anyone, was the intention there? Maybe, but he never went through with it and after a week he was ashamed of what he was doing/thinking (whatever).

Considering this took place 40 years ago I don't see the problem, casual racism exists now and was a lot more acceptable back then and would have influenced his thinking at the time, good on him for being honest. People should be allowed to speak their mind and not be afraid to be labelled.

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John Barnes gets it.

 
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