56 Black Men...

56 black men ..... sitting on a wall, if one of the black men should accidentally fall, there will be 55 black men sitting on the wall.
 
56 black men ..... sitting on a wall, if one of the black men should accidentally fall, there will be 55 black men sitting on the wall.
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should we be offended by black men in hoodies now or not? The rules have become so complex I haven't a chuffin' clue.

What if they self identify as white? Then what!!!!
 
Given that young black men are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, I fail to see why anyone who identifies themselves as part of the "black community" has any reason to complain. Get your house in order before you start to brand the police of institutional racism.

And yeah if you dress like a street hoodlum, expect to be treated as one.
 
Given that young black men are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, I fail to see why anyone who identifies themselves as part of the "black community" has any reason to complain. Get your house in order before you start to brand the police of institutional racism.
Doesn't matter if they identify themselves as part of the black community or not - what seems to matter is if the police do, surely?

And this is what racism is: some black dudes commit crimes, so all black dudes get treated like criminals by default. And then people say things like "get your house in order" as if all black people are responsible for other black people committing crimes. It's not like you can change your race to avoid being part of that demographic.
 
Given that young black men are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, I fail to see why anyone who identifies themselves as part of the "black community" has any reason to complain. Get your house in order before you start to brand the police of institutional racism.

And yeah if you dress like a street hoodlum, expect to be treated as one.

And how do you suggest we do that? Just want to know so I can update my hive mind.
 
You assume that his friends, family etc. aren't already positive role models themselves?

Not at all, however I struggle to think of any young children who are role models - you see they tend to be the ones that need them. It all has to start somewhere and rather than his flippant and pathetic 'hive mind' comment I gave a realistic and pragmatic approach.
 
I imagine you have friends, family, acquaintances? Perhaps using positive influence on those people might be a start?
Assuming that my friends, family and acquaintances have any need to change? Why would they need to change?
That's the problem. Telling me that because I'm black I have to change people who I've never spoken to. All I can do is live my life as a good person and surrounding myself with good people. No one I know has ever been in any trouble nor would I associate myself with people who are into doing things which I think are negative.

Just a bit of a farce that the onus is on me to change peoples perceptions they have about me before they even get to know me. If people want to tar everyone with one brush they're free to do that but that's not the type of person I want to please.
 
Not at all, however I struggle to think of any young children who are role models - you see they tend to be the ones that need them. It all has to start somewhere and rather than his flippant and pathetic 'hive mind' comment I gave a realistic and pragmatic approach.

It's not a flippant and pathetic comment. I see it all the time that people assume we all think as one. "Get your house in order" MY house is in order. Just because you have some other people being dicks doesn't mean every one is. neither do I want to be expected to sort out people who only share one characteristic with me, my skin colour.

In this thread alone someone saw "a black". not a black guy. Not even someone looking like a prat. just 'a black'.
 
Assuming that my friends, family and acquaintances have any need to change? Why would they need to change?
That's the problem. Telling me that because I'm black I have to change people who I've never spoken to. All I can do is live my life as a good person and surrounding myself with good people. No one I know has ever been in any trouble nor would I associate myself with people who are into doing things which I think are negative.

And straight away we see the defensive attitude that pervades so many areas of society and leads to a continued downward spiral. I have made no assumptions that they need to change - I'm suggesting however a way that positive influence can spread rather than your frankly pathetic 'hive mind' comment.
And as for telling you to change people you've never spoken to, who said that? I imagine you speak to your friends and family?

Saying all you can do is live your life as a good person is also complete crap. We can all positively influence others around us instead of having such a selfish and limiting view.
 
And straight away we see the defensive attitude that pervades so many areas of society and leads to a continued downward spiral. I have made no assumptions that they need to change - I'm suggesting however a way that positive influence can spread rather than your frankly pathetic 'hive mind' comment.
And as for telling you to change people you've never spoken to, who said that? I imagine you speak to your friends and family?

Saying all you can do is live your life as a good person is also complete crap. We can all positively influence others around us instead of having such a selfish and limiting view.

You call it pathetic, fine, but that's how i feel GD thinks black people act sometimes. We are all one, not individuals. When I feel like i'm being treated as one of many and not many of one, then I'll stop saying hive mind. (I am not accusing you of saying I have a hive mind, if that's what you think I feel, then i apologise)

The poster who said to get our house in order. How do i do that? If my family and friends aren't part of the problem, how do i get my house in order? No one i know has ever stole from or hurt anyone so how am i supposed to fix gangs in London? I don't identify as part of a black community. I will always be part of that regardless even if I wanted in or out. It's the first thing people will see about me.

How on earth is me trying to be a good person a load of crap? I'm good to my family and my friends. If I don't know someone, I treat them with the same respect I would like to be treated. But I refuse to be grouped with scummy people just because they happen to share my skin colour - they are most certainly not part of my house.
 
Not at all, however I struggle to think of any young children who are role models - you see they tend to be the ones that need them. It all has to start somewhere and rather than his flippant and pathetic 'hive mind' comment I gave a realistic and pragmatic approach.

You never mentioned anything about children being role models. I agree about it starting somewhere and that should be with the parents, regardless of colour, religion or income.
 
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