GTX or RTX Laptop

StumpyJake

StumpyJake

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So. I'm looking at a new laptop and I am not sure if I should go with a newer RTX based system or an older GTX system. I've looking at spending between £2000-£2500. Should I splash out on the more expensive RTX based system or stick with the slightly cheaper GTX? I've seen a few reviews of the RTX cards saying they not good value for money over the older GTX cards, also there are not that many games using the full benefits of RTX yet. Also Max-Q versions are a little under-performing as well. Looking for something in the 17inch range and in the 2-3kg weight range as I'll be transporting it around.

Been looking at the MSI GS73 and MSI GS73 Stealth, any other suggestions?
 
From the data available so far ray tracing is pretty much pointless on all the notebook RTX cards, even the 2080 struggles to hold 60 fps with RT on at ultra settings.

The non-ray tracing performance between the GTX and RTX appears to be negligible. See the CES thread (https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32478204) for more info.

Also, the AORUS (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoru...z-intel-i7-8750h-gaming-laptop-lt-03a-au.html) has a full fat RTX 1070 rather than the weaker Max-Q variant the MSI has and at £2,099 it's steal.
 
I'm in a similar position, i'm currently running a 4 year old 970M system, and it's been great. I'm ready for a new system though, as i'm hitting the point where i'm having to significantly drop settings to keep framerates at 1080p a little. To be fair i can still hit 60fps in destiny 2 on medium settings so i'm not too bad, but the time seems right.

I'm not that fussed about portability as really i just have a gaming laptop for playing on the sofa with, so I've ruled out any of the super thin chassis with MaxQ chips as with them it seems you have to spec up at increased cost to get the same performance, so for example for 2070 you seem to need a 2080MaxQ for the same performance, and unless you need the portability it's just a crazy price increase.

I had started looking at 15" laptops, but have noticed one thing that has changed in the 4 years since i got mine is the thin bezel revolution. Meaning 17" laptops are no longer the huge monsters they used to be, and ive been tempted to move up to a 17", which generally from where i am now would only be about 1-2 cm on the width and nothing on the depth height or weight on my current system, which seems nice.

Looking at all the reviews so far, I'm liking the MSI GE75 with the 2070, but i must say the Aorus 15 with the 2070 looks a great laptop too from the vids i've seen. It's almost a shame the 17" version isn't available any time soon. (i think at CES they said 1/4 2, so i guess we're looking at April for that. Having said that neither machine is available now anyway so it's all academic, for at least a few weeks anyway.

It'll be interesting to see how prices hold up once the systems are generally available as by all accounts people might be holding off a bit for the dust to settle. The RTX drivers seem to need a lot of work, and it's hard to know what the performance of any of these machines will be in ray tracing in 6 months time.

It certainly is tempting to same some money to play todays games at 1080p. But for me these machines are 3-4 year investments and I think i'd rather wait a few more months for either RTX prices to come down a bit or for stuff to start using RTX better to see where we are. I think it 24 months times i might be stitting regretting getting a 10 series now and not having any RTX capability.

That's my ramblings thoughts on the question anyway.
 
For example, 2060 is comparable to 1070. 1070 costs less but 2060 runs cooler. Most of 1080s struggle in the laptop. Therefore, given the importance of cooling, I would get up to 1070 (2060 similar) from GTX and anything from 2070 (1080 similar) from RTX to ensure sufficient cooling.
 
DvoycY said:
For example, 2060 is comparable to 1070. 1070 costs less but 2060 runs cooler. Most of 1080s struggle in the laptop. Therefore, given the importance of cooling, I would get up to 1070 (2060 similar) from GTX and anything from 2070 (1080 similar) from RTX to ensure sufficient cooling.
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This is simply untrue.

The RTX 2060 is a much weaker card.

The present data demonstrates that the best RTX 2060 is lagging behind an average GTX 1070 by a minimum of 26.1% in 3DMark's firestrike - https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/18208631/fs/14765490

A closer comparative would be the RTX 2060 Max-Q is on par with a GTX 1060 Max-P.

*All references are to notebook only GPUs, not desktop cards.
 
MiSJAH said:
This is simply untrue.

The RTX 2060 is a much weaker card.

The present data demonstrates that the best RTX 2060 is lagging behind an average GTX 1070 by a minimum of 26.1% in 3DMark's firestrike - https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/18208631/fs/14765490

A closer comparative would be the RTX 2060 Max-Q is on par with a GTX 1060 Max-P.

*All references are to notebook only GPUs, not desktop cards.
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Interesting. I go by this:
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-6GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/4034vs3609
 
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