New gaming build - 2-2.5k

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I've been wanting to build a new system for the past couple of years and now I'm ready to take the plunge. I would appreciate some advice on a build and have a budget of around 2000-2500, I will also be building it myself.
A few points:
  • I would like to build the system around a monitor like the the Samsung CHG70 QLED 32inch at 1440p (it doesn't need to be this monitor, but something similar)
  • I'm aware that the next gen AMD cpus are around the corner, but I would like this for now with the possibility to upgrade later. I'm also not fussed about overclocking it, I always end up spending more time tinkering rather than playing!
  • It'll be purely a games machine (mainly strategy games- total war etc...)
  • If possible the option to add VR at a later date too
  • The budget needs to include everything SSD, OS etc as I'm keeping the old pc intact for now
  • It'll be linked to a TV through the wall behind in the living room via HDMI or Steamlink (havent decided yet) to play AAA titles with the controller.
 
So you want to go AMD so you can have Ryzen 3xxx options later on? How about an already somewhat-overclocked 2600X to get you started, save some money for summer (hopefully summer). Don't think you'll need a CPU upgrade for a few years though if pure gaming.

An Ultrawide 34" 3440x1440 21:9 is usually great for strategy games. Do you like the looks of those or would you prefer to stick to 32" 2560x1440 16:9? There's a Samsung white/silver model similar to the 32" CHG70 included in spec below.


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,174.02 (includes shipping: £23.10)


Elsewhere I saw you can find:

PSU - Riotoro Enigma G2 750W for £84
Games SSD - Crucial MX500 2TB SATA SSD for £240

For a total of £2,498.02.

The Eclipse P600S has a USB Type-C on its front I/O panel. Word is that VR in the future will be powered through USB Type-C. And white case to match white/silver monitor.

Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler is overspecced for a 2600X. You may want it in already, to have it for a more powerful CPU later. Or remove and go with the stock cooler for now.

The 8-Pack RAM is a luxury, expensive Samsung B-Die. But it's known to be the best, particularly for Ryzen, in terms of compatibility and performance. If you can afford it, and don't want issues trying to get it to run at rated speed, then this is the one to go for (or other Samsung B-Die memory like G.Skill Trident Z/Trident Z RGB 3200MHz CAS 14). Though if you want RGB RAM, better go with a different cooler that won't hide it.

GTX 2080 will drive that resolution at 100Hz pretty well.

970 EVO Polaris NVME SSD is a bit of a luxury and unnecessary. It would be nice to separate the OS/program drive from the Games drive, that's all. Not essential. You could go with a single 1TB Sata SSD if you wanted. Or Sata SSD/HDD combo if you need more storage for other things.

Haven't included OS because you can download Windows 10 free from Microsoft (just need 8GB USB flash drive for install) and find an inexpensive key whenever you want to activate.
 
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i7 9700k - would perform better with entry VR headsets like vive and Rift due to stronger IPC and clock speed . Monitor is G-sync enabled and damn good. use one myself . Not sure how long and if Samsung screens will get G-sync Compatible certs....

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,313.77 (includes shipping: £15.90)

Ryzen- planning on Ryzen 3000 or 4000 then PUSH X470 flagships, grab the X470 Carbon and anything similar or lower and find high grade B550 will beat it ( can say much on next gen boards but they follow the rule of z390) , look at the Strix B450 E (which can only be had through distribution in the UK) and you'll see thoughts on next gen boards ( that board is better then their X470 flagship in terms of amount of power it can handle, though cheaper Phase units means power delivery isn't as clean)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,384.77 (includes shipping: £15.90)

MSI x470 M7 is the flagship of MSI

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £774.03 (includes shipping: £11.10)


P600s is a damn nice case on deal!!!!​
 
  • It'll be linked to a TV through the wall behind in the living room via HDMI or Steamlink (havent decided yet) to play AAA titles with the controller.

Steamlink is great - but has it's limitations/faults. I've used it successfully for less demanding games and my kids have streamed minecraft with mods successfully - but it isn't a smooth experience. AAA games, for me, aren't playable. However users experience can vary considerably. And as good as they are, even if you have a great connection, you will experience occasional connection problems when it decides not to play ball at all (I'm assuming you wouldn't be playing competitively online via the device?)

If you have the opportunity of discretely hard-wiring your TV, without too much unsightly 'spaghetti wiring', I would opt for this. It would be a far superior experience, especially for AAA titles and online gameplay and no random laggy days...
 
If you have the opportunity of discretely hard-wiring your TV, without too much unsightly 'spaghetti wiring', I would opt for this.

I concur. You can get ultra-long fibre-optic HDMI and HDMI 2 cables. They're seriously expensive, mind.
 
Thank you very much for the replies, I'm looking at going with the I7 build that Orbitalwalsh suggested. My only issue is the monitor is currently on Pre order and I really fancied a 32", could you suggest a decent alternative for roughly the same price to work well with that graphics card? not really fussed about ultra wide at this point either.

With regards to the steamlink vs HDMI, I'll go HDMI and do this at a later date.
 
Thank you very much for the replies, I'm looking at going with the I7 build that Orbitalwalsh suggested. My only issue is the monitor is currently on Pre order and I really fancied a 32", could you suggest a decent alternative for roughly the same price to work well with that graphics card? not really fussed about ultra wide at this point either.

With regards to the steamlink vs HDMI, I'll go HDMI and do this at a later date.

seems like aorus monitors flew out of stock everywhere pretty quickly !

I cant confirm G-sync compatibility with this one !!! I know MSI range like aorus has been cleared internally but no idea with the FULL range of asus, only a few officially and ASUS feed back is shocking on forums

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...creen-1800r-curved-led-monitor-mo-09l-as.html

full G-sync monitor but costs rise

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lg-3...65hz-gaming-widescreen-monitor-mo-14p-lg.html

again if you plan on using Ryzen 3000/4000 dont get anything lower then flagship X470 board... you'll be kicking yourself in July if not

if you really want some bling for extra £50 and 4 yr UK warranty

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1a9-gi.html

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little bit more on PSU but excellent RMA service from Corsair UK

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...lar-power-supply-cp-9020178-uk-ca-249-cs.html
 
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Thanks for this, just having a look around what would your opinion be on this monitor:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lg-3...4hz-1ms-widescreen-led-monitor-mo-14z-lg.html
and with a saving of say £100, would it be worth investing this into the graphics card?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,368.17 (includes shipping: £13.20)

need to move up to 750w PSU .

worth looking at owners thread here

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/the-radeon-vii-owners-thread.18845346/

no idea on LG and getting G-sync compatibility, and wouldn't be able to use HDR on offer correctly
 
So I think I'm going to go for this

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,471.01 (includes shipping: £23.10)​

decided to go for the 32" gsync monitor.
In terms of the graphics card, is it worth spending more? or would I just be paying an absolute premium for a few more FPS?
This may sound like a stupid question having not built a PC for 8-9 years, but will this come with all the necessary cabling (Sata etc)? I know the monitor comes with an HDMI. Will I need some thermal paste for the CPU?
 
Extra for GPU doesn't always get extra FPS. In theory it should
Aorus board is Custom designed 12+2 phase design verses the reference 6+2 and hopefully no coil whine.
Zotac do a custom PCB but again these like the Aorus and Strix are more expensive .
Your mainly paying for design of card , looks and branding - or customer service with Gigabyte having their rep on here and UK RMA, believe zotac have UK RMA too .
 
decided to go for the 32" gsync monitor.
In terms of the graphics card, is it worth spending more? or would I just be paying an absolute premium for a few more FPS?
So that you're chained to be Nvidia's slave when AMD is returning with new high end GPU architecture next winter and with also Intel joining discrete graphics card competition next year?
Strategy games have no use for highest frame rates, so for them it wouldn't be big deal if you couldn't find say over 100Hz FreeSync monitor.
While there's choise of FreeSync monitors at least to 144Hz.

And that returning competition also makes any super expensive graphics cards very likely to be bad at holding value.
While already paying notably higher prices for some "special" edition graphics card has very bad actual performance returns for extra price.
AMD no doubt made years ago plans for real return to high end competition, but with limited resources those had to wait until getting CPU business back on track.


And for longevity don't see reason for buying Intel now.
It's true that Intels have now varying amount of advantage, but only reason for that is second rate GlobalFoundries limiting clocks of current Ryzens:
Because of GloFo being unable to develop 14nm node they bought one from Samsung, who originally designed it for low clocks phone/tablet CPUs.

TSMC's 7nm high performance node is going to fix that, while being also more advanced than anything Intel has for high end in near future.
In CES AMD demoed eight core Zen2 engineering sample matching 9900K's performance at 50W lower power consumption.
So there's certainly room for tweaking clocks to release, while maturing of 7nm node likely gives some extra.
With chiplet design confirmed and AMD strongly hinting to another jump in core count and overall performance per buck, 8c/16t is likely going to be rather cheap.
So just eight threaded CPU is likely going to look rather mediocre at summer.


Strategy games would be actually among the games with developers having easiest time in taking more cores and threads into use.
AI for high number of units hogs serious amounts of processing power.
At least for better AI than that "good old" which gets units stuck in obstacles or makes them take weird routes.
Or some unit ordered to attack charges enemy with weapon pointing to opposite direction to give enemy first shot... :p
 
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with ashes of signularity, seems it was harder to implement multi core and GPU features, think that and Lost Planet 2 and 3 or the only ones that scale/coded perfectly for multiple threads .
kicker in the Teeth is DX12 meant to help but actually increases life of i7 4 Cores drastically and also boosting ryzen 4 cores up to 25% with WOW ... PC industry doesn;t quite know were its going but consoles are heading in one firm direction ...

me personally, I just want ryzen 3000/4000 to have core speed and IPC ! and for esports, it'll need it- not worth having 16 cores with CS:GO or SC2 :D
will say though, x570 been built to handle more then 16 cores though... should handle 24 core Thread ripper haha!

as you say, Freesync with G-Sync certification are the gems for monitors at the moment! best of both worlds!! and Intel line up should work with them :D
 
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