Lost on the 'net?

Lokwyr · 24 Feb 2019 at 22:57

Howcome the supposedly everything on the internet is forever on the internet, yet the World Naval Ships Forum (WNSF) seems to have completely disappeared. A shut-down notice was posted., blaming the EU GDPR ! WNSF was UK based.
Is stuff lost forever? Or what?

The_Abyss · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:04

Navigation clearly isn't what it used to be.

#RIPNetscape

d_brennen · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:13

Keeping something forever is all well and good until it starts costing you (an individual) more than having it would.

World Naval Ships Forums Archive

We have now taken the decision to take our forum offline and make an archive version available.

After more than a decade in operation, we had collected a huge amount of information on naval history and we intend to present a non-interactive version of all the threads and posts that existed in the forum.

We may at a future date bring back the active forum, if we feel we have the resources to manage it.

Finally, thanks to our members (over 40,000 registered) for the creation of over 15,000 threads with over 350,000 posts, and over 150,000 attachments.
We hope the archive of this data will be available soon.

Seems they plan on making the forum available read only *soon*

The_Abyss · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:21

Which they would still need to manage as per the Data Protection Act 2018 (GDPR) as much as they would a live forum...

Lokwyr · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:26

d_brennen said:
Keeping something forever is all well and good until it starts costing you (an individual) more than having it would.
Seems they plan on making the forum available read only *soon*

That's the notice. WNSF was an absolute joy to explore. The breadth and depth of knowledge just there for the asking was encyclopedic. I would pay a sub for it to return.
I hope the "soon" arrives before my ultimate departure departure.
For those interested in nautical art- search for Vegaskip. The man's a prodigy!

jsmoke · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:27

Give the NSA/GCHQ a ring, they will have cached it.

Lokwyr · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:29

The_Abyss said:
Which they would still need to manage as per the Data Protection Act 2018 (GDPR) as much as they would a live forum...

So how does that affect the nothing-is-ever-lost-from-the-internet?
Just asking- I don't know.

Lokwyr · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:31

jsmoke said:
Give the NSA/GCHQ a ring, they will have cached it.

I would if I only knew who/what/where they are :rolleyes:

Vexr · 24 Feb 2019 at 23:48

There's always the way back machine, not that I'd expect it to play nicely with forums:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100301000000*/https://www.worldnavalships.com/

Lokwyr said:
I would if I only knew who/what/where they are

Seriously?

Well the important thing is they know who/what/where you are lol.

touch · 25 Feb 2019 at 00:06

The_Abyss said:
Which they would still need to manage as per the Data Protection Act 2018 (GDPR) as much as they would a live forum...

Their GDPR issues are likely to be related to storing the user's personal details, not the public forum posts. So a static version with no user accounts stored would fix that.

FoxEye · 25 Feb 2019 at 00:36

Lokwyr said:
I would if I only knew who/what/where they are

Look in the mirror and say, "I'm going to kill the president" 5 times... it's how you summon them.

SexyGreyFox · 25 Feb 2019 at 07:37

FoxEye said:
Look in the mirror and say, "I'm going to kill the president" 5 times... it's how you summon them.

OMG, you've just done it

Dis86 · 25 Feb 2019 at 14:01

FoxEye said:
Look in the mirror and say, "I'm going to kill the president" 5 times... it's how you summon them.

I half expect at the minute they'd turn up and supply a rifle.

Yaayuh! · 25 Feb 2019 at 14:15

Relevant and fun.

http://www.nsagame.net/

edit: doens't look like it works anymore

whitecrook · 25 Feb 2019 at 15:33

ahhhh . Who remembers usenet ? Another reason why it was better than shiny web forums.

SexyGreyFox · 25 Feb 2019 at 18:05

whitecrook said:
ahhhh . Who remembers usenet ? Another reason why it was better than shiny web forums.

Who remembers?
I still use it.

Pawnless Endgame · 25 Feb 2019 at 18:19

whitecrook said:
ahhhh . Who remembers usenet ? Another reason why it was better than shiny web forums.

I was a bit late for Usenet, but I do remember using newsgroups. You needed a newsreader although I think email clients could access newsgroups as well in the later days. In the corporate world, there was something similar inside of Microsoft Outlook called Public Folders. It was massive in one of my workplaces - it had folders for buy/sell, wanted, lost&found, let/rent, debate forum, discussion groups on pop, indie, dance, jazz music, computer discussion, TV & radio and many more. A lot of people got into trouble though for posting during core time, and the debate forum (called the Soapbox) was the most monitored folder by far. A number of people got the sack for stuff that they wrote in there as it upset the management!

thezappa · 25 Feb 2019 at 18:48

I still use usenet albeit about once every couple of years :/
Also there was another presidential assassination game JFK reloaded. Wasn’t there a prize for getting it exactly right? I have $15k in my head for some reason.

Lokwyr · 25 Feb 2019 at 19:56

Vexr said:
There's always the way back machine, not that I'd expect it to play nicely with forums:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100301000000*/https://www.worldnavalships.com/
That way back machine looks the biz. I'll delve into it next time it rains and the garden can be left to itself

Seriously? Well the important thing is they know who/what/where you are lol.

Ssshhhhh! I sent him a get-well sometime card. Signed it with my ex's moniker :cool:

whitecrook · 26 Feb 2019 at 11:50

Pawnless Endgame said:
I was a bit late for Usenet, but I do remember using newsgroups. You needed a newsreader although I think email clients could access newsgroups as well in the later days. In the corporate world, there was something similar inside of Microsoft Outlook called Public Folders. It was massive in one of my workplaces - it had folders for buy/sell, wanted, lost&found, let/rent, debate forum, discussion groups on pop, indie, dance, jazz music, computer discussion, TV & radio and many more. A lot of people got into trouble though for posting during core time, and the debate forum (called the Soapbox) was the most monitored folder by far. A number of people got the sack for stuff that they wrote in there as it upset the management!

Nope.

The point about usenet is it was/is a DECENTRALISED system. So no one person can 'close it' or 'take it away' It wasn't owned by any corporation. Users could use their favourite software as they liked and interface with a standards compliant system. Web interfaces to 'bulletin board' systems are if anything, the complete opposite of that whole philosophy.