Pixel 3 or S10?

chris.tarry85

chris.tarry85

chris.tarry85

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Upgrade time is approaching and I'm not sure if the S10 is worth the extra £30 upfront and £12 a month over the Pixel 3.

Don't want an XL due to the size, but seeing as I mostly use my current phone (S7) for photos and videos and this seems to be a standout feature of the Pixel?

Also quite attracted to no bloatware and better updates.

What would you do?
 
I'd say what you're really paying for in the Samsung is the choice of lenses. I'd imagine the quality will be near enough identical from both. I'd base the decision on whether or not you'll actually make use of them.

The lack of bloat is a massive plus. I've always gone Samsung but rooted and got rid. It's one of the reasons I'm holding on getting a mate 20 pro, even though they may not have massive amounts of it to begin with.
 
You'll get a better, more rounded set of features and toys vs the Pixel 3.
Samsung are steadfast on security updates so I wouldn't be worried there, obviously fuill on OS updates take time. The bloat isn't that bad as the phone OS still remains very fluid barring the odd delay here and there, though it isn't a patch on a Nexus/Pixel device. Samsung's new OneUI that possibly ships with the S10 is just gorgeous.

I chose an S8+ over a Pixel 2 XL last year as you get a lot more for your money, and if I were in the same boat as you I'd do the same with the S10 (I'd cry about the cost later).
 
Define "better updates". Samsung dish out monthly security updates and will continue to do so for 2+ years. Even the S6 is still getting them.

Major OS updates come a few months later than Pixels, yes, but most of the features are already onboard long before Google implement them, along with features not found on any Pixel. If you want abslute minimal bloat, then the Nokia phones are the option, not Pixel. Pixels come with the Google Experience skin on top, just like how Samsung have OneUI. Nokia uses Android One, an unskinned barebones Android with only the essential apps installed with a few tweaks thrown in.

Seems a bit weird picking a Pixel 3 now anyway, it looks ancient as it is, and in 2019 come next month, will look even more ancient.
 
mrk said:
Define "better updates". Samsung dish out monthly security updates and will continue to do so for 2+ years. Even the S6 is still getting them.

Major OS updates come a few months later than Pixels, yes, but most of the features are already onboard long before Google implement them, along with features not found on any Pixel. If you want abslute minimal bloat, then the Nokia phones are the option, not Pixel. Pixels come with the Google Experience skin on top, just like how Samsung have OneUI. Nokia uses Android One, an unskinned barebones Android with only the essential apps installed with a few tweaks thrown in.

Seems a bit weird picking a Pixel 3 now anyway, it looks ancient as it is, and in 2019 come next month, will look even more ancient.
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A few months?

10. Samsung


Time to roll out first U.S. Oreo update: 207 days.
Samsung rolled Oreo out to its flagship Galaxy S8, S8 Plus, and Note 8 phones by around mid-to-late-March, more than six months after the software’s release. The update began rolling out with carriers before hitting the U.S. unlocked models in April.
Samsung rarely excels at updating its phones, but this was a shockingly poor performance. It should be a warning sign for potential Samsung Galaxy buyers — not to mention current Galaxy S9 owners. You could be waiting for several months in 2019 to see the Android P update roll out.
Samsung is in the process of updating the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge to Oreo, meaning it is providing the 24-months of support we (rightfully) expect from Android phones. The South Korean company has also updated some of its lesser-known devices, like the Galaxy A series, in certain regions. Hey, it’s something.
Hopefully, Samsung can take advantage of the benefits of Project Treble to improve going forward. Goodness knows it needs to.

Source https://www.androidauthority.com/android-oreo-fastest-manufacturers-update-874788/
 
End of the day Samsung have been pretty good with security updates and yes they are slow with major OS updates but if having the latest OS/Security update is your #1 priority just get a Pixel, or even better an iPhone.
 
mrk said:
Define "better updates". Samsung dish out monthly security updates and will continue to do so for 2+ years. Even the S6 is still getting them.

Major OS updates come a few months later than Pixels, yes, but most of the features are already onboard long before Google implement them, along with features not found on any Pixel. If you want abslute minimal bloat, then the Nokia phones are the option, not Pixel. Pixels come with the Google Experience skin on top, just like how Samsung have OneUI. Nokia uses Android One, an unskinned barebones Android with only the essential apps installed with a few tweaks thrown in.

Seems a bit weird picking a Pixel 3 now anyway, it looks ancient as it is, and in 2019 come next month, will look even more ancient.
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Jimbeam3678 said:
A few months?

10. Samsung


Time to roll out first U.S. Oreo update: 207 days.
Samsung rolled Oreo out to its flagship Galaxy S8, S8 Plus, and Note 8 phones by around mid-to-late-March, more than six months after the software’s release. The update began rolling out with carriers before hitting the U.S. unlocked models in April.
Samsung rarely excels at updating its phones, but this was a shockingly poor performance. It should be a warning sign for potential Samsung Galaxy buyers — not to mention current Galaxy S9 owners. You could be waiting for several months in 2019 to see the Android P update roll out.
Samsung is in the process of updating the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge to Oreo, meaning it is providing the 24-months of support we (rightfully) expect from Android phones. The South Korean company has also updated some of its lesser-known devices, like the Galaxy A series, in certain regions. Hey, it’s something.
Hopefully, Samsung can take advantage of the benefits of Project Treble to improve going forward. Goodness knows it needs to.

Source https://www.androidauthority.com/android-oreo-fastest-manufacturers-update-874788/
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They are OS updates though. Security updates are essential and Samsung are, with their flagship phones at least, Pretty much there. Ie, My s8 is on Feb '19 security patch. OS updates are less and less important now, to the point where i wouldnt even care if my s8 didnt receive Pie.
 
On iOS each new update is a security update and a new OS version for the most part. So OS updates and security combined since apple control the process so well (forced updates).

Android has security updates separate to OS updates and is a rolling monthly thing. Some carriers are slower than others but generally a device will be about a month behind.

Pie happens to be the first Android OS I actually don't want, though Samsung's superb OneUI is awfully tempting.
 
I've never understood the lust of OS updates Most of the time I can't notice any difference .

Is it some sort of placebo effect ?
 
413x said:
I've never understood the lust of OS updates Most of the time I can't notice any difference .

Is it some sort of placebo effect ?
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Without OS updates, how can software improve?

example, on the Pixel 3XL, they added WiFi calling for 3 UK in the last update.
 
Unfortunately with Pie some of the updates aren't necessarily improvements... Eg recent apps window change is definitely a step backwards and the removal of certain location settings seems unwanted.
Overall though things do seem to improve even if much of it is "under the hood"
 
I do feel however they use the pixel 3 xl used as beta testers. They will fix an issue previous month then roll out a new update with the issue back.
 
lmfy2k said:
I do feel however they use the pixel 3 xl used as beta testers. They will fix an issue previous month then roll out a new update with the issue back.
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That's how it always is with google products. You are a beta tester. Same story for us 6P users back in the day, then the Pixel, then my Pixel C tablet, my Google Home etc. Nothing remains consistent with them.

I don't know much about Pie as I don't want it, but from what I have read Google are making tthe UI even whiter and in addition certain settings that once took a few clicks now take a lot more.
 
lmfy2k said:
Without OS updates, how can software improve?

example, on the Pixel 3XL, they added WiFi calling for 3 UK in the last update.
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It often doesn't within a phones Life. A few years back I used To swear a update slowed down my phone and added nothing of note. Can't really think when I have ever thought a software update has improved my current device (excluding Windows pcs of course)
 
Last year I went from the S7 to the Pixel 2 XL.
Probably won't go back to Samsung. There are only 2 things I miss... The nice bright OLED on the samsung and the ability to swipe left or right on contacts in the phone book to either call or text them.

The Pixel just feels smoother and more fluid. It feels so much nicer to use.
I also don't have all that Samsung bloat. Samsung apps that do what Google's apps already do etc
 
I think Android Pie gets a lot of flack, and some of it somewhat unfairly.

The only differences I haven't enjoyed are the gestures (which are pretty rubbish I must say) but they can be disabled (on the Pixel 2 at least) and the way they've dumbed down the quick toggles. The rest is either the same or better.

The task switcher for example, as quoted above, I personally prefer it in Pie. The change to horizontal instead of vertical scrolling might have been jarring at first, but now when I go back it seems a little primitive and I don't buy the arguments in its favour? What exactly is better about it? People say you can have more tasks on the screen, but in reality you only really saw the top of the tasks and still only about 3 or 4 anyway, and there were no search bars in it or quick switch icons at the bottom which I've come to enjoy.

My GF just bought the S9+ and I upgraded to OneUI and handed over last night after a play. They've come on a long way with this I must say, but i STILL prefer the lack of bloat and more polished UI of the Pixel even if it does lack a lot of features in comparison (few of which are of any importance to me anyway).
 
Oh no, there's a horizontal task switcher?
Is it at least a deck of cards style? I hope it isn't full tile by tile!
 
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