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EVGA Black 2080ti's - are they 300A's?

Mercutio

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So... reading up a bit on the evga forums etc. Getting quite confused.

It seems ANY 2080ti's sold even 1mhz past 1545mhz core clock (so with ANY factory OC) is using the better binned 300A turing chip. There's posts there saying the black is also 300A, the black seems to be advertised as 1545mhz.

Which is correct?

The black is 1545mhz and a 300
The black is 1545mhz and a 300A
The black is xxxxmhz and a 300A
 
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Mercutio said:
So... reading up a bit on the evga forums etc. Getting quite confused.

It seems ANY 2080ti's sold even 1mhz past 1545mhz core clock (so with ANY factory OC) is using the better binned 300A turing chip. There's posts there saying the black is also 300A, the black seems to be advertised as 1545mhz.

Which is correct?

The black is 1545mhz and a 300
The black is 1545mhz and a 300A
The black is xxxxmhz and a 300A
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The black [11G-P4-2281-KR] is 1545mhz and a 300 - is correct. For A there's XC Black Edition as a starting point (11G-P4-2282-KR).

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-ti.c3305
 
More or less what I thought. Seems at some point all the blacks were 300A's. Seems they are properly split now. Shame, would have been £140ish saved (seems to be the difference between "basic" and "binned" 2080ti's).
 
Are the non-A chips proven bad overclockers, or simply less likely to hit anything significant? I've got an eVGA Black on order and didn't want to pay 20pc more for a 10pc overclock.

Not that I intend to overclock anyway.
 
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mulpsmebeauty said:
Are the non-A chips proven bad overclockers, or simply less likely to hit anything significant? I've got an eVGA Black on order and didn't want to pay 20pc more for a 10pc overclock.

Not that I intend to overclock anyway.
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I had an EVGA black previously before switching to the ultra.

The actual core speed seemed fine, clocked to over 2000mhz.

The problem is EVGA have a 111% power limit on the card vs 130% on the ultra. And because it’s a slightly different chip or revision or whatever then the bios is different and cannot at the minute be reflashed.

This means your looking at clock drops due to power limitations. I was seeing 1800mhz ish, whereas the ultra doesn’t drop at 2075mhz solid.

As well as the ultra has a much thicker cooler, for the price you are better off going for a standard FE as it’s just as loud if not louder. The FE performs quite well.
 
The Ultra is another £330 on top of an already obscenely-priced product and is beyond what I'm willing to spend. It's a shame there's a scramble to add so many extra tiers to what should be an absolute premium GPU. I accept this has always been a thing, but to charge up to 50% more for a fan and some tweaking might get these companies some short-term profit, yet I doubt if it buys them much goodwill.

"Let us tell you have we've gimped your £1100 GPU."
 
mulpsmebeauty said:
The Ultra is another £330 on top of an already obscenely-priced product and is beyond what I'm willing to spend. It's a shame there's a scramble to add so many extra tiers to what should be an absolute premium GPU. I accept this has always been a thing, but to charge up to 50% more for a fan and some tweaking might get these companies some short-term profit, yet I doubt if it buys them much goodwill.

"Let us tell you have we've gimped your £1100 GPU."
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That is true :( and although my ultra has a waterblock on I went for the Black originally due to cost (didn’t need the cooler really). Only to find that was gimped. I wasn’t expecting chip differences especially at £1000.

The FE is actually a very nice card having owned one on both air and water. Only really went for the EVGA due to warranty and resale value.
 
Yup. If the black was 300A it would be a no brainer (for someone wishing to purchase a 2080ti at least). EVGA seem (imo) to make the most stable cards then the aftersales is a massive cherry on top. Not keen on +10% extra at over £1k for something that feels like the best product. That's straight up crap.
Semi tempted but doing all I can now to talk myself out of it.
 
The place I bought from (not OCUK) has a Zotac triple fan on for thirty quid more and which boosts to 1575Mhz. Given that I'm not going to overclock, I'm not going to see any differences am I? Or is it a simple case of making a few tweaks in Afterburner and having a card that's 10% faster with no significant extra heat.

Although I've bought one (I'm lucky enough that I can afford it, but not stupid enough that I will sink £500 into an RGB fan cooler), the 2080ti is a really bad move from nVidia.
 
mulpsmebeauty said:
The place I bought from (not OCUK) has a Zotac triple fan on for thirty quid more and which boosts to 1575Mhz. Given that I'm not going to overclock, I'm not going to see any differences am I? Or is it a simple case of making a few tweaks in Afterburner and having a card that's 10% faster with no significant extra heat.

Although I've bought one (I'm lucky enough that I can afford it, but not stupid enough that I will sink £500 into an RGB fan cooler), the 2080ti is a really bad move from nVidia.
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I don't really get this boost thing. I picked up one of the triple fan Zotac's several months ago and I can see that even at stock it automatically boosts to over 2000Mhz as long as the power limiter is set to it's 116% max. It even hit 2130Mhz playing FC5 the other day according to HWInfo64, quietly and using an auto fan curve.

Playing with that Galax 380W bios I can manually set it to +2100Mhz but aside from generating much more heat it doesn't seem to perform much better than leaving it all on auto.

I think the 1575Mhz is a bit misleading TBH as even boosting to over 2000Mhz it's incredibly rare for the card to hit 70C, so it's always boosting, never sitting at 1575Mhz.
 
I would buy the FE over the EVGA black edition, as I understand the FE have the A chip and clock really well. They might not be the coolest or quietest though. But you can shop around and get a really decent card for £1200, I have seen the MSI gaming trio X for £1200 on preorder and that's a cracking price
 
I've changed my ordered eVGA Black to a Gigabyte Gaming OC instead. It boils my urine to pay more, but it would have rankled with me constantly knowing I had what is potentially a substandard chip :P

At least I'll have better cooling...
 
Apone70 said:
Change it again. The Strix oc is £1239.98 for forum members
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I bought a custom PC elsewhere and am tied to their selection. OCUK were not efficient when I requested a cost to build and I went with another company. And the Strix is plenty more expensive than the Gaming OC.
 
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