This might be one for the CAB but....

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.... someone here might have experienced similar, and could offer advice.

Long story short:

Switched energy suppliers (dual service) in July, to a smaller outfit, I chose them due to price and the fact there was (iirc) no exit fees/penalties for leaving - I have reviewed the 'contract' PDF they sent, and cannot see any term mentioned; but would assume it to be 12 months.

We are using well below their monthly DD payment, and as such, have accumulated a decent Credit on the account - having previously used a smaller provider, getting this credit back has been as simple as one email and a payment in the bank days later.

Unfortunately, our current provider have quite a checkered past with regards to this part of their business, and the Google reviews tell mostly the same stories - Credits are either refused to be refunded, are promised but never deliver, or come but aren't for the full amount!

I found this out after sending off an email requesting the Credit be refunded :(

We have been told a credit will be paid to us, but about 25% of the amount owed, has been kept back - the reason (so I was told), is because their 'refund policy' is that a month's payment must remain in the account, during the winter period!

I have scoured the terms and conditions, but it mentions nothing about this - I even asked customer services to direct me to that clause, but was told that it is not in writing; so it seem like they can make up Ts&Cs as they see fit - I might be wrong, but surely that's not legal/in breach of our contract?

So, after my (poor) attempt at summarizing - are they within their rights to withhold money owed in this manner, even if I was not made aware if it, when signing up with them?

Thanks GD.

Also - sorry Mods if this isn't the right section!
 
are they within their rights to withhold money owed in this manner

No, they're not.
Make a formal complaint to them and if it hasn't been resolved within 8 weeks you refer it to OFGEM.

edit: from this page, the link to "Electricity Supply Standard Licence Conditions" and condition 27.16 details it.
 
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No, they're not.
Make a formal complaint to them and if it hasn't been resolved within 8 weeks you refer it to OFGEM.

edit: from this page, the link to "Electricity Supply Standard Licence Conditions" and condition 27.16 details it.

Do this, the regulator will give them a kick up the arse.
 
No, they're not.
Make a formal complaint to them and if it hasn't been resolved within 8 weeks you refer it to OFGEM.
edit: from this page, the link to "Electricity Supply Standard Licence Conditions" and condition 27.16 details it.

Great, thank you for the advice.

Why wouldn't you mention who the supplier is?

Wasn't certain if there was any rules against that sort of 'name and shame' thing, and didn't really think it had any relevance to the question :confused:

If you really want to know, and in light of how poor their feedback is via reviews (might save another OcUKer dealign with them) - it's Avro Energy.

Also unless its in the t&cs 25% sounds like an internal policy and not an official one.

That's what I am thinking - the fact it's not in the Ts&Cs I read before signing up, and the customer services cannot show me any evidence it's a policy.

Thanks for the help folks :)
 
I'd never use DD for anything. I find the practice of utility companies holding peoples money like a bank appalling.

Fixed-amount DD is much easier for most people. If you set it to the correct amount, any surplus built up over summer will be used over winter.
 
Fixed-amount DD is much easier for most people. If you set it to the correct amount, any surplus built up over summer will be used over winter.

Our DD is fixed, but we use a lot less than the DD amount - often around the 55-65% mark. I wasn't aware that you could get a DD amount reduced, which would have prevented this issue from arising - I hold my hands up to that; DD just makes me a bit lazy I guess. But looking at this supplier's feedback, they even make reducing your DD almost impossible.
 
I wasn't aware that you could get a DD amount reduced
Yes, I've had similar issues with previous suppliers. It's best to get it set to the correct amount right at the start.
I've kept a record of all my meter readings since I moved into my house 3 years ago so I know exactly how much I use per year. If you use the questionnaire which asks how many rooms you have and how many people live in your house, you'll never get an accurate estimate and, therefore, your DD amount won't be set correctly.
 
Fixed-amount DD is much easier for most people. If you set it to the correct amount, any surplus built up over summer will be used over winter.

I bet for most people it always remains in credit. I'd rather pay a set bill online, and keep my money to myself :) Not generate interest for these fairly awful companies.
 
Yes, I've had similar issues with previous suppliers. It's best to get it set to the correct amount right at the start.
I've kept a record of all my meter readings since I moved into my house 3 years ago so I know exactly how much I use per year. If you use the questionnaire which asks how many rooms you have and how many people live in your house, you'll never get an accurate estimate and, therefore, your DD amount won't be set correctly.

Lessons learned :) Me and the Wife have a joint account, and know that X amount will cover the mortgage and bills; so are both quite ignorant on DDs and just let them trickle out.
I only recently found out my Sky BB was costing £43 a month - that was after they sent me a letter, following the 'free' speed increase, to say the bill was going up by another £4!

Think I need to go back to being more diligent with bills, need to oust myself out of the comfortable rut!

I bet for most people it always remains in credit. I'd rather pay a set bill online, and keep my money to myself :) Not generate interest for these fairly awful companies.

Indeed, I know we are like this with services - I guess its a bit like insurance renewals; they are hedging their bets on you not being bothered to go find someone else, so just give you a rubbish renewal price to make them more money.
 
Oh man.
I'm with Avro energy, got over £200 in credit with them at the moment! My contract runs out in June so I will move provers then and get all my credit back before I close the account. Should be over £300 by then quit easily.
 
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