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Are you being daft again?

Right, I'm having to explain your own post again...

Your first sentence "people only moan when it's Muslims doing the discriminating" does not mention gay rights. At all. It is, as I pointed out, inaccurate. Wrong. Crap.
The second sentence is just that, a second sentence. A separate point. If the first sentence was about gay rights the two would be separated with a comma.
 
Not sure if it's deflecting or defending the practise of stoning to death from some posters.

It's funny isn't it? I don't believe any of them brought Islam in to the gay baker thread yet any thread critical of islam and the same core of people are like...omg but Christianity!
 
Right, I'm having to explain your own post again...

Your first sentence "people only moan when it's Muslims doing the discriminating" does not mention gay rights. At all. It is, as I pointed out, inaccurate. Wrong. Crap.
The second sentence is just that, a second sentence. A separate point. If the first sentence was about gay rights the two would be separated with a comma.

You're over-thinking this just a bit, and as a result you're reading the wrong meaning into my post. This is something I've seen you do before (strangely in another thread about Muslims - you, and you alone, thought a poster implied that he cares more about other Muslims than non-Muslims when he said nothing of the sort. It was very odd).

Anyway, in the context of this thread the meaning of my post as a whole is fairly straightforward. I'm sure most people got it.
 
You're over-thinking this just a bit, and as a result you're reading the wrong meaning into my post. This is something I've seen you do before (strangely in another thread about Muslims - you, and you alone, thought a poster implied that he cares more about other Muslims than non-Muslims when he said nothing of the sort. It was very odd).

Anyway, in the context of this thread the meaning of my post as a whole is fairly straightforward. I'm sure most people got it.

And again your post in that respect is wrong. You'll find those condemning this have also defended gay rights elsewhere on here. But don't let that get in the way of your defence of a backwards religion.
And I stand by that previous post.
 
And again your post in that respect is wrong. You'll find those condemning this have also defended gay rights elsewhere on here. But don't let that get in the way of your defence of a backwards religion.
And I stand by that previous post.

Yes, I expect you do. You're still wrong though.
 
Yes, I expect you do. You're still wrong though.

Ok, sure. As you've shown though, and I believe admitted, your grasp of English at times is pretty poor so I don't expect you to pick up on the subtleties of what people say.
 
Ok, sure. As you've shown though, and I believe admitted, your grasp of English at times is pretty poor so I don't expect you to pick up on the subtleties of what people say.

Judging by the way you misunderstand people's posts (and not just mine as I explained), unless you're doing it deliberately then I'd suggest that your grasp of English isn't anything to write home about either.
 
People only seem to moan when it's Muslims doing the discriminating. It's like they don't really care much about gay rights really, they just want a stick to beat Muslims with.

Well it is a bit more than the usual discrimination here, this is about introducing a law with the penalty of stoning to death, bit more extreme and perhaps more thread worthy than general homophobia etc... Also I think you're conflating criticism of Islam with "bashing muslims".
 
Judging by the way you misunderstand people's posts (and not just mine as I explained), unless you're doing it deliberately then I'd suggest that your grasp of English isn't anything to write home about either.

So...because you don't understand something other people must be wrong too? Again, you've said before (which you haven't denied here) that English perhaps isn't your first language. Although you were interestingly ambiguous then.
 
Well it is a bit more than the usual discrimination here, this is about introducing a law with the penalty of stoning to death, bit more extreme and perhaps more thread worthy than general homophobia etc... Also I think you're conflating criticism of Islam with "bashing muslims".

When folk use causes they aren't generally concerned about as weapons against groups of people they don't like, I find it quite disingenuous.

So...because you don't understand something other people must be wrong too? Again, you've said before (which you haven't denied here) that English perhaps isn't your first language. Although you were interestingly ambiguous then.

I understood it perfectly. Bear in mind, it was you and you alone who had the misunderstanding. Other people tried explaining it to you but you just wouldn't have it.

I am Welsh and a Welsh speaker but English is my first language (it has been since secondary school).
 
When folk use causes they aren't generally concerned about as weapons against groups of people they don't like, I find it quite disingenuous.

Which folk and have they previously been supportive of the stoning of gay people?

Also what is being used as a weapon against people here? I think you're again conflating criticism of a law and a conservative interpretation of a religion with an attack on people following that religion in general. Most of the victims of conservative Islamic beliefs are muslims themselves after all.
 
Which folk and have they previously been supportive of the stoning of gay people?

Also what is being used as a weapon against people here? I think you're again conflating criticism of a law and a conservative interpretation of a religion with an attack on people following that religion in general. Most of the victims of conservative Islamic beliefs are muslims themselves after all.

Which folk? Well, those who in general don't give a monkeys about gay rights yet as soon as a Muslim country discriminates against gays, they're suddenly up in arms.

Gay rights is the weapon here - isn't that obvious? Do you think that people who are generally critical of Muslims really care about the rights of gay Muslims?
 
I understood it perfectly. Bear in mind, it was you and you alone who had the misunderstanding. Other people tried explaining it to you but you just wouldn't have it.

I am Welsh and a Welsh speaker but English is my first language (it has been since secondary school).

How do you know you understood it perfectly? The gent in question never actually stated that my assertions were wrong. I think if anyone rereads what he wrote with impartiality they can clearly see the issue.
And you admit you only mastered English in secondary school so perhaps then you missed a large aspect in your formative years prior to that.

Anyways, back on topic. You're wrong. Simples. Or will you man up and admit you're trying to deflect from a religion which is actively being used as justification to kill people with rocks for simply being gay?
 
When you compare that map with the one on this wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

The extent of the, erm, overlap between Islam and the most severe restrictions and penalties on homosexuality is actually pretty definitive

Shhh! Don't come in here with your logic! Stop bashing Muslims you racist! You don't even like gay people!

Am I doing this right yadda?
 
When you compare that map with the one on this wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

The extent of the, erm, overlap between Islam and the most severe restrictions and penalties on homosexuality is actually pretty definitive

Yes, I don't disagree that the punishments in Muslim countries are in general the most severe. That's not what I'm arguing.

Edit: My, this thread got busy all of a sudden. :)
 
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