How do i get my ram to reach 3200mhz its rated speed

phrases · 26 Apr 2019 at 15:44

Recently upgraded to the taichi X470 board. Didn't realise i would run into an issue with the ram though. Currently with xmp the best i can get out of it is 3000mhz.

would like to utlise its full speed or even overclock it slightly as i hear ryzen works well with higher ram?

Its the trident Z F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR

32Gb Kit

Having looked i am a little clueless as some say to change the timings others say to knock the voltage up?

Vince · 26 Apr 2019 at 15:50

phrases said:
Recently upgraded to the taichi X470 board. Didn't realise i would run into an issue with the ram though. Currently with xmp the best i can get out of it is 3000mhz.

would like to utlise its full speed or even overclock it slightly as i hear ryzen works well with higher ram?

Its the trident Z F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR

32Gb Kit

Having looked i am a little clueless as some say to change the timings others say to knock the voltage up?

VDDCR SoC voltage is the one you want to knock up, its effectively the voltage to the uncore which includes the on-chip memory controllers. Should be at something like 0.85v and for that 3200 clock you will probably want closer to 1v.

phrases · 26 Apr 2019 at 18:02

Vince said:
VDDCR SoC voltage is the one you want to knock up, its effectively the voltage to the uncore which includes the on-chip memory controllers. Should be at something like 0.85v and for that 3200 clock you will probably want closer to 1v.

ok i will give that a go if i can find it in bios thx

Vince · 26 Apr 2019 at 18:06

phrases said:
ok i will give that a go if i can find it in bios thx

It's a good starting point and literally the only way I can get 8x8gb of Trident Z 3466 b-die to 3200 with my Ryzen CPU.

Mind you a fully populated board is hard on my little cpu so it's fairly impressive it can do 3200 at all.

phrases · 26 Apr 2019 at 18:10

Vince said:
It's a good starting point and literally the only way I can get 8x8gb of Trident Z 3466 b-die to 3200 with my Ryzen CPU.

Mind you a fully populated board is hard on my little cpu so it's fairly impressive it can do 3200 at all.

You know of an idiot proof guide as i set the VDDR to 0.85v as suggested but it just power cycles and reset it back to 2133mhz

Running a 2700x

DarkHorizon472 · 27 Apr 2019 at 22:38

For my 1700 i had to up the cpu voltage from 1.2v to 1.26v to make 4 x 8gb 3200 c14 stable. At 2 x 8gb 3333 c14 was stable at 1.2v. As it worked first time I just left it and have not tried to reduce it.

DoneADougalOnSofa · 27 Apr 2019 at 22:44

You might struggle. Ryzen isn't really a big fan of c16 RAM.

My advice would be firstly to make sure you're on the latest BIOS for your board- there have been AGESA updates which have helped some issues- then whack a +0.25v offset on SoC voltage, and set RAM voltage at 1.37v.
But bear in mind even this may not do it. I had to junk my original c16 sticks in favour of some 8Pack c14 stuff- which dropped in perfectly at 3200.

wakadoo · 27 Apr 2019 at 23:15

DoneADougalOnSofa said:
. I had to junk my original c16 sticks in favour of some 8Pack c14 stuff- which dropped in perfectly at 3200.

is all CL14 samsung BDie ??

DoneADougalOnSofa · 27 Apr 2019 at 23:31

wakadoo said:
is all CL14 samsung BDie ??

Pretty sure it is, yes. Correct me if wrong, folks.

phrases · 28 Apr 2019 at 01:25

These are the settings it gave me to dial in however the taichi board bios is confusing as hell i input those settings and it just went into loop mode and reset.

As you see its not samsung B die as reported but Hynix

Finding it hard to figure out.

if i can't get it to work i'll just sell it on and get something that just works off the bat like 3800 or 4000mhz

ANDARIAL · 2 May 2019 at 16:33

Have you tried entering `Hynix`in the calc?
And why use the Debug mode?
I might not fully understand how the calc works but i cannot get the same readings as you even when copying your settings :confused:

phrases · 2 May 2019 at 16:46

ANDARIAL said:
Have you tried entering `Hynix`in the calc?
And why use the Debug mode?
I might not fully understand how the calc works but i cannot get the same readings as you even when copying your settings

Dropped down to 2x8Gb sticks hit 3200 from xmp fine.

Ryzen just doesn't like dual x4

KungFuSpaghetti · 8 May 2019 at 14:43

I'm running the same board as you OP, but using 8 pack RAM. It's been fine out the box at XMP for 3200 and it will do over 3600mhz CL14, but sweet spot is 3466 CL14. I think your DRAM calc is wrong though, as you've got it set for Samsung b-die, but the RAM you're using is Hynix A-die, so stick that in the settings the calculate safe settings at 3200mhz then see if that's stable... then gradually go up to fast or extreme settings, then if still stable you can look to push beyond 3200mhz (not that there's really much point).

Oh, also don't forget to input the settings on the advanced tab too, I had didn't need to do that on 3200 for any of the pre-sets (safe, fast or extreme) but I did once the speeds were over 3333mhz or it failed to post and reverted back to 2133 lol.

Illuminist · 8 May 2019 at 16:54

I have the same problem on my 2700x with 8 pack team group pro 3200mhz cl14, it will not and never has ran at 3200mhz , it used to boot loop like you say until the latest bios of f30 and now boots with 3200mhz but when testing it gets errors immediately so dropped it back to 3000 @ 14,13,13,13,32,48
Some IMC of the cpu can't handle the speed and some ram just isnt up to the job either

Mercutio · 8 May 2019 at 17:34

It's been suggested but... Yeah a small soc voltage boost and definitely check the ram voltage is 1.35 at least. Most sticks require it (and say so in spec). Default us usually around 1.2.

Vince · 8 May 2019 at 17:38

Mercutio said:
It's been suggested but... Yeah a small soc voltage boost and definitely check the ram voltage is 1.35 at least. Most sticks require it (and say so in spec). Default us usually around 1.2.

It's all about the soc voltage. I can get 8 sticks stable at 3200 on 1st gen so surely it must be possible with some fiddling.

muon · 9 May 2019 at 00:40

Try 3133mhz @CL16 @ 1.4v. Should be easier to achieve.

Then think about if your time is worth that extra 66mhz.

Double sided Hynix will be very difficult to get to 3200 with Ryzen at CL16. I managed to get it error free after playing with voltages, but wasn't worth the effort.

edit:

If it is a 4 x 8GB set, then it will be harder still.

phrases · 9 May 2019 at 02:33

muon said:
Try 3133mhz @CL16 @ 1.4v. Should be easier to achieve.

Then think about if your time is worth that extra 66mhz.

Double sided Hynix will be very difficult to get to 3200 with Ryzen at CL16. I managed to get it error free after playing with voltages, but wasn't worth the effort.

edit:

If it is a 4 x 8GB set, then it will be harder still.

I gave up in the end even though it got it running at 3000mhz i found i was blue screening quite a bit. Took out 2x4Gb so dropped to 16Gb XMP did its thing to 3200mhz no issues.