Need more power for 3440x1440

MG42Maniac · 26 Jun 2019 at 11:24

Hi All,

I recently upgraded my monitor to a ASUS MX34VQ (3440x1440 100Hz Freesync). I am loving the higher resolution and immersive feeling of the 34" curved screen. However, gaming performance has really taken a nose dive. Prior to this I was running 2560x1080 @ 60Hz. I generally play Division 2, Wildlands and will be getting Breakpoint. The issue is low frame rates and a generally choppy experience. Wildlands in particular, even on medium struggles and will drop into 37-40fps at times. Division 2 runs better but still gets annoying stutters. My system specs are as follows:

AMD 2700X @ 4.1GHz cooled by H115i Pro
Gigabyte B450 AORUS M
16GB DDR 3600 @ 3000MHz CAS16
Vega 56 Pulse @ 1600MHz core, 900MHz HBM and a slight undervolt. Holds these clocks during gaming.
1TB Corsair MP510
850W Corsair PSU
Fractal R5

I also have another gaming PC that is very similar but has 4.25GHz on the 2700X, an Inno3d 1080Ti X3 and a Acer Predator XB271HU (2560x1440 165Hz). Gameplay on this is much smoother, it's night and day. I've actually plugged in the Asus Freesync monitor into this PC and the FPS increases to about 65fps on very high in Wildlands so I definitely know it's a GPU bottleneck. Gameplay was smooth and even though Freesync was not enabled it was a much more enjoyable experience. I am left wondering what to do now. I've a few options:

1) "Upgrade" to a V64, clock the nuts off of it and see if that extra bit of grunt helps. This would quite cheap but unsure if I would notice much difference.
2) Upgrade to a 5700XT.
3) Upgrade to a 1080Ti for about £430, enjoy raw performance but miss out on Freesync.
4) Open my wallet really wide and get a Vega VII.

I don't want to keep turning down graphical settings so am happy to spend out. I ran a quick Timespy run and got 7065 which I think is about right so the system is performing as expected.

DereksDontRun · 26 Jun 2019 at 11:41

I'm in the exact same position - moved from 1080p gaming to 3440x1440 and my 980ti is struggling...

Don't want to pay the 20## series tax, but I'm almost left wondering what else there is... I'm now waiting for the Super reviews to see how the 2070 Super performs and what prices they're actually available for...

Does that monitor play nicely with g-sync compatable?

MG42Maniac · 26 Jun 2019 at 11:46

DereksDontRun said:
I'm in the exact same position - moved from 1080p gaming to 3440x1440 and my 980ti is struggling...

Don't want to pay the 20## series tax, but I'm almost left wondering what else there is... I'm now waiting for the Super reviews to see how the 2070 Super performs and what prices they're actually available for...

Does that monitor play nicely with g-sync compatable?

Yeah, 3440x1440 is a tough resolution to drive! I thought the V56 would do better to be honest. I am hoping this is where the V64/V7 might show their strengths.

My monitor is not officially supported. When I plugged it into my 1080Ti I saw no option to set G Sync up like I do when I plug in my regular monitor, do I need to go somewhere else?

Martini1991 · 26 Jun 2019 at 11:47

You're basically looking at 2080 or VII for a meaningful upgrade.

The problem is Vega 56 and 64 are old now and need replacing in the tiers really

MG42Maniac · 26 Jun 2019 at 12:15

Martini1991 said:
You're basically looking at 2080 or VII for a meaningful upgrade.

The problem is Vega 56 and 64 are old now and need replacing in the tiers really

Yeah, the thing is that I am not blown away by the VII performance, especially not for £600. If the 1080Ti were cheaper, I'd stick one into the PC in a heartbeat as I've very impressed with mine.

ninezerofive · 26 Jun 2019 at 12:19

Looks like even 2080ti won't help in some situations to drive your monitor to the limit trying to reach those 100 fps.

willhub · 26 Jun 2019 at 12:29

MG42Maniac said:
Yeah, 3440x1440 is a tough resolution to drive! I thought the V56 would do better to be honest. I am hoping this is where the V64/V7 might show their strengths.

My monitor is not officially supported. When I plugged it into my 1080Ti I saw no option to set G Sync up like I do when I plug in my regular monitor, do I need to go somewhere else?

You need to use display port for G sync on freesync monitor.

1080ti is nice for 4k.

MG42Maniac · 26 Jun 2019 at 12:47

willhub said:
You need to use display port for G sync on freesync monitor.

1080ti is nice for 4k.

Yeah, I was using display port. I didn't see the G Sync option in the Nvidia control panel. From looking online, I should see it!?

kevman · 26 Jun 2019 at 12:52

MG42Maniac said:
Yeah, I was using display port. I didn't see the G Sync option in the Nvidia control panel. From looking online, I should see it!?

In the nv control panel along the top there is also g-sync indicator option you can toggle which tells you whether it's working or not. Also I have found that I need to shut down oculus rift for g-sync to work.

Panos · 26 Jun 2019 at 13:04

MG42Maniac said:
Yeah, the thing is that I am not blown away by the VII performance, especially not for £600. If the 1080Ti were cheaper, I'd stick one into the PC in a heartbeat as I've very impressed with mine.

Imho you should wait 10 days until we see how the 5700XT performs at 3440x1440.

Martini1991 · 26 Jun 2019 at 13:08

Panos said:
Imho you should wait 10 days until we see how the 5700XT performs at 3440x1440.

You've got to be the most positive person about the 5700XT on the planet.

MG42Maniac · 26 Jun 2019 at 13:09

Panos said:
Imho you should wait 10 days until we see how the 5700XT performs at 3440x1440.

I'm tempted to wait. Thing is, are the AIB going to be available from 7th and is it likely to challenge a 1080Ti? Presume it'll be £450/£475

Zernath · 26 Jun 2019 at 13:10

Martini1991 said:
You've got to be the most positive person about the 5700XT on the planet.

Well, until we get actual benchmarks, it's currently all guesswork. No one can truly know how they will perform, except AMD themselves.

Kirby Wurm · 26 Jun 2019 at 13:18

A V64 would barely offer any more performance as once overclocked the V56 pretty much matches it as the V64 doesn't seem to clock that well. A VII is expensive for what you get. If Freesync can be enabled a used 1080 Ti is a decent option but at this stage it's worth seeing what the Super series/5700XT offer (neither looking like they'll be great value).

TheRealDeal · 26 Jun 2019 at 13:24

My Vega 64 does not to bad at 4k if I tune the game settings so would have thought a 56 would do decent at 1440p. Turning down some settings usually makes no real visual impact and there are certain blurring effects that can be turned off that make the games look better. Doing this will usually net you the performance you need to get the experience you want.

You could try flashing the Vega 56 bios to the 64 and overclocking. Doing this gets the 56 very close to Vega 64/2070 if you have a good chip. I think the details for doing this are in the Vega 56 thread.

MG42Maniac · 26 Jun 2019 at 14:01

Kirby Wurm said:
A V64 would barely offer any more performance as once overclocked the V56 pretty much matches it as the V64 doesn't seem to clock that well. A VII is expensive for what you get. If Freesync can be enabled a used 1080 Ti is a decent option but at this stage it's worth seeing what the Super series/5700XT offer (neither looking like they'll be great value).

I figured that, if both of them are overclocked, what kinda difference would you expect to see? Are talking ~5%? It's hard to find a comparison!

TheRealDeal said:
My Vega 64 does not to bad at 4k if I tune the game settings so would have thought a 56 would do decent at 1440p. Turning down some settings usually makes no real visual impact and there are certain blurring effects that can be turned off that make the games look better. Doing this will usually net you the performance you need to get the experience you want.

You could try flashing the Vega 56 bios to the 64 and overclocking. Doing this gets the 56 very close to Vega 64/2070 if you have a good chip. I think the details for doing this are in the Vega 56 thread.

I've already tuned it so that it's undervolted and overclocked to 1600/900. It performs okay, it just does not have enough raw power at 3440x1440. Interestingly, I tried turning everything down to Low in Wildlands and it only managed about 75fps, despite the game looking horrendous. Thing is, when Breakpoint is out, we will likely move onto that so I want decent performance in that as well!

tyler_jrb · 26 Jun 2019 at 14:20

Having freesync makes the choice a lot harder.

I’d wait for the 5700XT and decide based on that. You should be looking at 2070 levels of performance, hopefully.

Panos · 26 Jun 2019 at 15:56

Martini1991 said:
You've got to be the most positive person about the 5700XT on the planet.

Yet you havent seen the product either.

Martini1991 · 26 Jun 2019 at 15:57

Panos said:
Yet you havent seen the product either.

We've seen where AMD has poised it.
Originally you were putting V64 ahead of it.

Either way you're being optimistic there's no denying that.

EDIT : AMD's slides have it on average 30% faster than a Vega 56 at 1440P. That's a stock running Vega 56. For all we know it's an absolute stock reference Vega 56.

Navi 5700XT's looking like 10% faster than a 64 at best. Bet you could tweak 64's to be on par with it as well!

MG42Maniac · 26 Jun 2019 at 16:52

I've bought a Aorus 1080Ti for £420. I was really impressed with how my other 1080Ti drove the monitor so figured I'd just buy another one rather than wait for what if or maybes

The state of the market is just quite poor so once you get to this kinda resolution there isn't really a great buy.