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Scam said:
However somebody thinking they can do the equivalent of surviving at the peak of Everest for 6hrs, followed by a parachute-less descent to earth from 40,000ft is undoubtably a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
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No, just very very desperate. I guess they think that there's plenty of space in there and that once the wheels go up, they can just hop off onto a convenient ledge and sit there for the duration of the journey and remain perched there once the doors open and the wheels are lowered on final approach (note, the wheels don't drop at 40,000ft) before jumping off once the plane stops. In reality, they're probably crushed to death straight away when the wheels are raised and they drop like a sack of excrement when the wheels are lowered. If they're not crushed to death then they'll be in absolute agony until they either suffocate or die of hypothermia once the aircraft reaches altitude.

Whichever way, they're nasty ways to go and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
 
Merlin5 said:
Poor guy. And to think he only did it in order to meet the beneficiary of millions of £ to be transferred from an African bank.
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Feek said:
No, just very very desperate. I guess they think that there's plenty of space in there and that once the wheels go up, they can just hop off onto a convenient ledge and sit there for the duration of the journey and remain perched there once the doors open and the wheels are lowered on final approach (note, the wheels don't drop at 40,000ft) before jumping off once the plane stops. In reality, they're probably crushed to death straight away when the wheels are raised and they drop like a sack of excrement when the wheels are lowered. If they're not crushed to death then they'll be in absolute agony until they either suffocate or die of hypothermia once the aircraft reaches altitude.

Whichever way, they're nasty ways to go and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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You know this, as outlined in your post.

At what level of desperation would you need to reach to try something that will in your own words result in certain death? Why go through that if you already know what will happen. This person was desperate, but they haven't been educated on the actual dangers of doing this. Stupid? Maybe, but more likely just lacking knowledge.
 
Feek said:
No, just very very desperate.
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I agree with what you're saying and the guy probably was very, very desperate like you say, but my point still remains that it's a fools errand. It'll be a combination of desperation and stupidity I'm sure. Or are we not allowed to say something like this is stupid, even when it so demonstrably is? :confused: I'm not being nasty for the sake of it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33199985
 
Scam said:
I agree with what you're saying and the guy probably was very, very desperate like you say, but my point still remains that it's a fools errand. It'll be a combination of desperation and stupidity I'm sure. Or are we not allowed to say something like this is stupid, even when it so demonstrably is? :confused: I'm not being nasty for the sake of it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33199985
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It's Africa. Their knowledge on aircraft ranges from "big metal bird fly voodoo" to "the drag coefficient of that starboard aileron is slightly higher due to the thermal expansion caused by the aircraft constantly flying clockwise in relation to the sun".

I suspect this guy was closer to the former rather than the latter.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Has anyone ever actually survived such a high altitude, long duration stunt? I would imagine that without a proper regulated oxygen supply and a thermal suit you are looking at a traumatic suicide mission myself. You'd also need some knowledge of how the undercarriage folds inwards as the hydraulics are going to be pretty unforgiving against a human body. From all angles it sounds like a fool's errand by an ignorant man. Some here or on the Speaker's Corner might suggest he was likely a Brexit supporter...
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Actually, yes people have survived such an experience but I think for shorter times, at any rate survival is unlikely. Typical temperature at cruising altitude is -50 to -60 C and typically a human would only remain conscious for 15 to 30 seconds at that height.

Provided he did'nt get crushed by the landing gear, he would have become hypoxic fairly rapidly and slipped into unconsciousness.
 
I was listening to a pilot talking on the Jeremy Vine Radio 2 show today and he said the man would have been long gone before falling from the landing gear.

And an expert from an Indonesian airline said you'd be dead before the plane had even straightened out. Apparently this has been tried before and there's been no successful attempts, at least, into the UK.

It seems that although there are security checks of the landing gear before takeoff, there's about an hour window after that where stowaways take their chance to get in.

They need to tighten security because anyone could do that and plant a bomb.
 
It's a sad case of desperation. A sad story indeed, but people do dumb things in desperate times.

Look at refugees who pay thousands to end up in overfilled boats to then capsize.
 
Hi cretin here.

At least he isn't desperate anymore and arguably he did make it to UK soil so.....
Win win.
 
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