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Something super is coming...

Wouldn't bother engaging, the narrative will just shift to suit agenda. Just as it did with the release of the new Ryzen 3000, which was the second coming of the Holy Jebus... right up until pricing was released, then AMD went from being the everyman company who were giving CPU's to homeless and conquering world peace, but are now the devil and basically Intel V2. Unhinged.

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They shouldn't have lied, as early as December 2018 !

Tech Analyst AdoredTV leaks alleged specs of the upcoming Ryzen 3000 series :D https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tech-...-the-upcoming-Ryzen-3000-series.374256.0.html
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They shouldn't have lied, as early as December 2018 !

Tech Analyst AdoredTV leaks alleged specs of the upcoming Ryzen 3000 series :D https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tech-...-the-upcoming-Ryzen-3000-series.374256.0.html
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They didn't lie, the leaks just turned out to be completely incorrect with regards to product stack and pricing. Whatever way you look at it, the general non gaming performance blows the competition into the water and the gaming performance is likely near parity all for less money, so pricing is more than fair, just not as good as what was (incorrectly) speculated.
 
Leaks of alleged specs are not the truth. You are normal quick to point out such fakes. :rolleyes:

Huh, it's probably just the original plan which AMD changed on the move because of some factors like intel being stuck in 14nm++ and their own IPC gains proved to be better than anticipated.
 
So is the 2080 redundant now in light of the 2070 Super?

I actually find the naming convention unfortunate. Some cards already are 'super' variants of brands so how do I differentiate a 'super' card and a 'SUPER' card?
 
Some people in here need to brush up on their English and look up the meanings of: Leak, speculation, lie, conjecture

Basing your ideas, dreams, hopes and plans off stuff you read on the Internet is fraught with danger. There's a Nigerian Prince out there just waiting to give you a million dollars if you help him :D:p;)
 
So is the 2080 redundant now in light of the 2070 Super?

I actually find the naming convention unfortunate. Some cards already are 'super' variants of brands so how do I differentiate a 'super' card and a 'SUPER' card?


Specs is the easy spot, amount of CUDA cores.
 
Indeed, couldn't agree more. I was quite shocked at how many tech sites were basically praising the "super" release, and the same goes for Navi, the whole industry is **** now.
I agree with it too, but the fact remains that people want powerful computers, they want to game at max res and fps and they will pay the money. It's OK going out on youtube and shouting at everyone to stop buying, but that guys got 9k subscribers. if everyone of them took his advice and didn't buy a new card this year, it still wouldn't have enough impact to force Nvidia to bring prices down. We are unable to affect prices, no matter how much we bleat about it. The only sure fire way is competition, and until AMD can match 2080Ti performance for a reasonable price, it ain't happening.
 
Basing your ideas, dreams, hopes and plans off stuff you read on the Internet is fraught with danger. There's a Nigerian Prince out there just waiting to give you a million dollars if you help him :D:p;)

True but AMD is inviting intel to catch up easily with the 7/7 lineup. If they had released the AdoredTV lineup, intel would have caught up with tremendous efforts.
AMD is waiting for intel to catch up. But they should never compare their own lineup with that of the competition. Just run forwards as quickly as possible.
 
Nail on head but what can we do? Stop upgrading?

Also there are other factors to take into consideration, take my case for example, I havent had to upgrade my CPU/RAM/MOBO for nearly 8 years, 8 YEARS!, So paying an extra £100 on a GPU isn't really the end of the world because I have saved ten times that by not having to upgrade my system for so long, the overall cost of PC gaming imho is cheaper now than its ever been it terms of not needing to upgrade as often, God back in the day I was spending around £1000 a year just to be able to play new games adequately, now a bargain 2600/9400 based system can play almost any game out there.
The answer is simple.

The answer is prefaced by the condition "IF YOU WANT TO..."

The answer is: "Keep the same budget each generation and don't be prepared to spend ever-increasing amounts to get your fix."

The problem is that prices keep going up (way above inflation) and people keep raising their budgets to allow them to buy into it.

If that's what you want, great. If that ****** you off, but you buy into it anyway, then you're only hurting yourself. Because you help allow the trend to continue.
 
I agree with it too, but the fact remains that people want powerful computers, they want to game at max res and fps and they will pay the money. It's OK going out on youtube and shouting at everyone to stop buying, but that guys got 9k subscribers. if everyone of them took his advice and didn't buy a new card this year, it still wouldn't have enough impact to force Nvidia to bring prices down. We are unable to affect prices, no matter how much we bleat about it. The only sure fire way is competition, and until AMD can match 2080Ti performance for a reasonable price, it ain't happening.
Well competition alone isn't a guarantee that prices will fall, although it does tend to have that effect.

But with AMD + nVidia currently offering the same perf for the same (bloated) prices, clearly competition atm isn't doing what it ought to.

When Intel enters the market, maybe they will position themselves as an even more premium brand than AMD is agling for :p

Ultimately the buyer sets the price. The buyer completes the contract.
 
If the 2080 Super follows the trend of the 2070 Super, the 2080Ti at its current prices becomes an even more pointless purchase than it was before.
I doubt the 2080S is going get the same treatment like the 2070S. The 1070 to 1070S gone from the TU106 to the TU104, but I doubt the 2080 to 2080S would go from TU104 to the TU102 used by the 2080Ti.
 
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