Budget board for Ryzen 3700?

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Upgrading from Intel platform 4590k, i have slowly been building up my parts

i have a MATX Corsair 280X and i also have Corsair Vengance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3466 MHz ram,

Looking at some of the prices of the x570 i just cant justify it, But i have painted myself into the corner with high speed ram and MATX case!

What B450 or X470 MATX board would people recommend? Max of £160, The prices of the B450 are very appealing but will it be hard to get something that will support my RAM speed?

I dont need anything crazy from a Motherboard, dont need Bluetooth, Gigabite LAN, or Wi-Fi

Thanks
 
an0nym0us said:
MSI B450M Mortar:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450m-mortar-socket-am4-ddr4-matx-motherboard-mb-348-ms.html

It also has the Flash BIOS Button, so you can use a USB stick to update BIOS, without installing a CPU, memory or graphics card:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR/Overview

3rd gen Ryzen and high speed RAM compatibility is rumoured to be much better than in previous generations. Still awaiting reputable 3rd party reviews/data before we can confirm this though.
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That seems the ticket! Also seems like ASROCK have an X570 mATX coming out, but if its expensive the MSI you linked seems perfect for my needs.
 
an0nym0us said:
MSI B450M Mortar:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450m-mortar-socket-am4-ddr4-matx-motherboard-mb-348-ms.html

It also has the Flash BIOS Button, so you can use a USB stick to update BIOS, without installing a CPU, memory or graphics card:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR/Overview

3rd gen Ryzen and high speed RAM compatibility is rumoured to be much better than in previous generations. Still awaiting reputable 3rd party reviews/data before we can confirm this though.
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think 8 Pack has done a few. recommend 3200hz plug and play . others have reached higher like @Journey - believe 3600hz? . Not sure if this is simply increase speed and keeping timing or using Ryzen ram calculator to fine tune everything .
still recommend your average person going with b450 and ryzen 3*** to just grab 3200hz and plug and play with no messing around

x570 and b550 will be plug and play with 3600hz
 
Limitation in my experience for RAM speeds above 3200MHz on B350/B450 has much more of a bias towards the IMC before the board becomes an issue unless your are trying to run 4 DIMMs or some 32GB (2x 16GB) dual rank modules.

Given the improvements to the Zen2 IMC, I'd think the memory will be much less of an issue that is being made out, unless you are wanting 4000MHz+ which is pointless given the IF tie in.

Too much importance is being weighed towards MB choice and RAM anyhow, for most people money can be much better spent elsewhere in terms of % gained per £ spent.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
think 8 Pack has done a few. recommend 3200hz plug and play . others have reached higher like @Journey - believe 3600hz? . Not sure if this is simply increase speed and keeping timing or using Ryzen ram calculator to fine tune everything .
still recommend your average person going with b450 and ryzen 3*** to just grab 3200hz and plug and play with no messing around

x570 and b550 will be plug and play with 3600hz
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Yeah, I'm sure majority of people out there won't be interested in tightening all the RAM timings and sub-timings. Plug and play definitely the recommended way for the bulk of users out there.
 
Journey said:
Limitation in my experience for RAM speeds above 3200MHz on B350/B450 has much more of a bias towards the IMC before the board becomes an issue unless your are trying to run 4 DIMMs or some 32GB (2x 16GB) dual rank modules.

Given the improvements to the Zen2 IMC, I'd think the memory will be much less of an issue that is being made out, unless you are wanting 4000MHz+ which is pointless given the IF tie in.

Too much importance is being weighed towards MB choice and RAM anyhow, for most people money can be much better spent elsewhere in terms of % gained per £ spent.
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Nice, thanks for the info.

So is it actually detrimental to performance once you go higher than 3733MHz due to Infinity Fabric no longer maintaining 1:1 ratio?
 
an0nym0us said:
Nice, thanks for the info.

So is it actually detrimental to performance once you go higher than 3733MHz due to Infinity Fabric no longer maintaining 1:1 ratio?
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Not many cores IMC can handle 3733hz at 1:1 ratio . Been stated that by 8 pack on here , very few cores . In theory that's the best performance but limited by IMC
 
orbitalwalsh said:
Not many cores IMC can handle 3733hz at 1:1 ratio . Been stated that by 8 pack on here , very few cores . In theory that's the best performance but limited by IMC
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Ah interesting, is this for the 3000 series? I read somewhere 3600 is going to be the sweet spot, but be interesting to see if many can run at that.
 
Webzta said:
Ah interesting, is this for the 3000 series? I read somewhere 3600 is going to be the sweet spot, but be interesting to see if many can run at that.
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All but one Cpu I tried can run 3600mhz with 1:1 with Infinity fabric. The other can run 3600mhz just not 1:1. All can run 4266mhz ram c18-20 with IF on divider.... Most can run 4500mhz.

IMC on this series is strong. I wish IF could always equal 1:1 with memory... Performance would be scaling perfectly then.

3600c14-16 is the sweet spot for perf.
 
8 Pack said:
All but one Cpu I tried can run 3600mhz with 1:1 with Infinity fabric. The other can run 3600mhz just not 1:1. All can run 4266mhz ram c18-20 with IF on divider.... Most can run 4500mhz.

IMC on this series is strong. I wish IF could always equal 1:1 with memory... Performance would be scaling perfectly then.

3600c14-16 is the sweet spot for perf.
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Cheers bud
 
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