Gradual upgrade to ryzen 3000 on extremely tight budget.

Grafter67

Grafter67

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Current system is

AMD phenom ii x4 840
4GB DDR2
250GB samsung 840 SSD running slowly as mobo doesnt really support it.
GTX 1060 3GB mini.

I want to move to ryzen while spending as little as possible initially (£200-£300?) and then say £100 a month after that.

So, cheaper or dearer mobo, cheapest chip and small amount of DDR4, or bigger initial spend?
 
£190 for a R5 3600, 16GB DDR4 for £60, and £70-90 for a decent B450 board, so about £320 minimum. However if you are playing games, it's terrible value unless you are planning on replacing your graphics card.
 
GPU will follow eventually. I'm thinking biggest early gains are mobo which I don't want to change too often (msi tomahawk?) and DDR4 of at least 8GB, but am unsure whether to get an older ryzen and then sell it on.
 
Grafter67 said:
GPU will follow eventually. I'm thinking biggest early gains are mobo which I don't want to change too often (msi tomahawk?) and DDR4 of at least 8GB, but am unsure whether to get an older ryzen and then sell it on.
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A motherboard adds from 0-2% performance difference, 8GB is a false economy, get 16 while it is cheap.

Which GPU do you intend to purchase?
 
Journey said:
A motherboard adds from 0-2% performance difference, 8GB is a false economy, get 16 while it is cheap.

Which GPU do you intend to purchase?
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GPU is a bit down the line. I'll be happy with improved CPU, memory and SSD performance in the short term.

Point taken about memory. 16GB it is.

Edit : I meant early gains in terms of where to spend money first. It is my only pc so needs to be working. An unbalanced system is fine in the short term (month or two) as long as I can resell bits at a not brutal loss)
 
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ExoMale said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £390.66 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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I cant see me going for the (not new gen) apu when I have a (poor but will do) graphics card. The x570 vs b450 mobo interests me.
 
the 3200g is a quad and cheapest 3rd gen processor if your set on those, just because you have a graphics card doesnt mean you cant have an APU, that is still better than your current cpu as if the 860 i had before anything to go by then you dont have a proper quad either way, i went from my athlon ii x 4 860k to a ryzen 1200 and i noticed a better increase in performance. i chose the x570 board because the new ranges are far too expensive and for the 2nd gen boards you need a bios, you would be better off with a b450 board though.
 
Thanks Guys. I want to change mobo once and maybe get 5 years before changing again as I hate that bit. The rest I'm relaxed about trading and swapping.
 
Grafter67 said:
ExoMale is on my wavelength. Im sure I can get a 1200 for less than £50 and pass it on for £30 or more
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An MSI Tomahawk B450 will set you back ~£90 and even with its juvenile BIOS, for Zen 2 compatibility, it has proven it can run a 3900X (12c/24t) stable at stock (but early days testing with juvenile BIOS) - certainly will cater any 3700X/3800X upgrade you may wish to do in the future. But the 3600, should hold you for a good while - recommend you look at some reviews:

3600 performance review (not a b450 - off to bed - but they're out there.)


Tomahawk running 3700X:


Bonus - even a b350 running 3900X (not recommended - just to show you early capabilities of even older chipsets):

 
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Thanks Plec, I had seen the 3rd video and find the middle one really interesting.

My background is in silent pc when that was a big and expensive thing but as a retired guy am currently in budget country.

MSI B450 Tomahawk & Carbon BIOS can be pre-flashed via USB without having to install a Zen 1 CPU first
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sorted imo
 
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I just dug an old antec case out of the attic. It's not a sonata but very similar so that's a start and I have a spare corsair 430 watt psu which will hopefully do, so maybe it's a new pc project and not an upgrade. I think I have a 750ti somewhere that will do the "old" pc.
 
shame aorus b450 and ryzen 2600 bundle been pulled , £209 with £60 worth of games for free.

have a look at ryzen 2600 and b450 board for £190 odd plus with 3000hz ram for £60 odd

if you've already got the gtx 1060 3gb i'd push higher then rx 570 personally .

to be honest anything is Better then your FX CHIP!

intel side of things



My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £323.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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would save up your budget first and grab the extra £100 for £400 total and see then
 
Thanks Everyone. Sadly OC didn't have my chosen bits in stock this time, but I do buy here when possible.

I went for MSI B450 Tomahawk, 2 x 8 corsair 3000mhz to last a while and a ryzen 1200 to match graphics and tide me over for a month or so
 
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