Streaming / Gaming build - £1500-2000

andy85wsm

andy85wsm

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Hey all,

Will try and keep this brief. Looking to get a basket for a completely new rig - don't need accessories or monitors (although am due an upgrade so might get opinions).

What I use the computer for

- Streaming (not games, although having that as an option would be good)
- Sony Vegas Pro video editing (quite basic - trimming, adding to timeline, adding transitions)
- Photoshop

What I'd like / prefer

- I've always been an intel / Nvidia type of guy but am open to arguments towards AMD
- Think it's about time I went to 32gb RAM
- Option to stream games as well as just myself on webcam over an image

Think that's about it. Budget is around £1500-2000. I know that's quite open but I'd rather pay for something that will last me a while than have to keep upgrading (last computer I built was through these forums and it's lasted me 7+ years!).

Obviously closer to £1500 the better.

Also hoping Overclockers would build it for me for an additional cost? Don't think I can go through the stress of building my own again!

Cheers
 
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Thought I'd give this a go myself and get thoughts on where to improve / cut back on.

What might be value for money etc. I really want something I won't have to worry about for a while - that's smooth for streaming and of course can do games as needed.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,724.76 (includes shipping: £15.90)
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andy85wsm said:
- Sony Vegas Pro video editing (quite basic - trimming, adding to timeline, adding transitions)

(last computer I built was through these forums and it's lasted me 7+ years!).
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Simple "direct stream copy" cutting and joining without recompression would be computationally light.
But effects and encoding suck processing power like bankers and corporate elite society dry.

For that kind usage life would consider 3900X as only good enough.
Or then change to upgrade to such CPU in year or so when prices of 12 cores have no dobut come lower.
Intel doesn't have upgrade path with once again rebranded Skylake v5 bringing another motherboard change with this time also change in pin count.
(guess they need more pins for Vcore and ground because advertised TDPs are very far from actual max power draw)

Next-gen consoles in year or so will come with Zen2 based 8 core and likely 16 thread CPU.
That will bring increase to how many threads games can load heavily.
(and no doubt benefit AMD CPUs in PC games)
And then Wintoys10 PC has whole lots more of background junk to run besides game than consoles.

Also if you want to do streaming besides gaming more than enough cores/threads is good thing.


andy85wsm said:
Is that just as good?

Side note - CPU = AMD and 2070 GPU potentially better?
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I would myself take Corsair MP510 if not penny pinching.

So far for example game loading time differences are mostly minimal between NVMe and SATA SSDs:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nvme+ssd+hdd
But if you do file copying etc then NVMe is whole lot faster.
Also at least Sony is hyping PS5 with short load times, so file structures etc of games might start to change.
Now game loading is bottlenecked mostly be decompression of asset files, initializing that data and other things etc.

5700 XT is pretty darn good for the price:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-5700-and-5700-xt-review,1.html
 
andy85wsm said:
Is that just as good?

Side note - CPU = AMD and 2070 GPU potentially better?
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If it was only just as good I wouldn't recommend it, better form factor, no cables, much faster for certain tasks. :)

You've not said what resolution or refresh rate you are going to be using the graphics cards at, or how important gaming is overall to you. I'd certainly be looking at the 2070 Super if you were going to Nvidia, not the bog standard 2070 as it is slower than the 5700XT for the most part.

You also need to change the RAM to a faster 3000MHz+ kit, or you'll knock a good 5-10% off the performance of the CPU. I'd look at a gold rated 650W PSU for about £10 more as well. :)

Oh finally, you can get Windows 10 for about £25 (mostly) legit if you shop around, PC would still have been installed, you'd just need to activate it with the key.
 
Probably 1080p, maybe 1440p at most, not bothered with 4k right now.

Gaming isn't hugely important but don't want to rule it out completely.

Thanks for info on Windows - that saves a bit then!
 
Also I should say I'm more likely to play on a console and stream on the PC than to actually play and stream on the PC when it comes to gaming.

At that point

AMD CPU and 2070 super?

Or

AMD for CPU and GPU?

Will look into 3000mhz RAM and come back with an updated basket soon unless anyone has their own thoughts/basket
 
Not sure why you'd spend so much money on a graphics card if you aren't going to use it. Or did I misinterpret what you wrote?
 
Journey said:
Not sure why you'd spend so much money on a graphics card if you aren't going to use it. Or did I misinterpret what you wrote?
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It's not that I'm never going to use it, it's just not the main thing I do with my PC.

I'd also like to not have to worry about upgrading for a while.
 
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