Except in this instance, it's not ******** is it. Like I said, everyone knows Audis don't corner. Just search...anywhere
Drive one and push it. It will just understeer, not pivot like other hot hatches. No fun.
Is the moutune m52 golf r the new hot hatch sleeper king?
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Except in this instance, it's not ******** is it. Like I said, everyone knows Audis don't corner. Just search...anywhere
Drive one and push it. It will just understeer, not pivot like other hot hatches. No fun.
Not failed to go round any corners in my Audi yet, but give it time 
There’s a great video from the Nurburgring somewhere that shows a load of RS3s I think failing to make it round a specific bend.
I had my Golf R for a bit over two years, never once used the launch control!
Haven’t in my current car yet but might have to give it a go as it’s supposed to be rather comical.
There’s a great video from the Nurburgring somewhere that shows a load of RS3s I think failing to make it round a specific bend.
I had my Golf R for a bit over two years, never once used the launch control!
Haven’t in my current car yet but might have to give it a go as it’s supposed to be rather comical.
Don't get a autowatch ghost, they are not worth the money. You would be far better getting something like the Viper 106v which basically does the same thing but disables 3 independent circuits for immobilisation.
not so easily bypassed. And the Viper is Thatcham recognised. Also the Viper 106V is cheaper too. I've seen people bypass the Ghost using the OBD port because it uses the can bus. Also the Autowatch ghost is only as good as the installer. If a thief finds it then it's useless.
Have a good old google if you don't believe me. There's a reason it doesn't get thatcham certification. Cobra ADR4615 is another good shout or look at clifford products such as the 650 mk2. Which is Thatcham cat 1.
Also Disklok and OBD relocation at the very minimum can defeat most thiefs
Except in this instance, it's not ******** is it. Like I said, everyone knows Audis don't corner. Just search...anywhere
Drive one and push it. It will just understeer, not pivot like other hot hatches. No fun.
Don't care, I have got ahead of everyone on the straight and if I have to slow for corners then out accelerate them on the straights again, everyone will always be behind me.
Unfortunately it doesnt quite work like that. Against a lighter car which corners quick you will never create a big enough gap to stay ahead
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Except in this instance, it's not ******** is it. Like I said, everyone knows Audis don't corner. Just search...anywhere
Drive one and push it. It will just understeer, not pivot like other hot hatches. No fun.
Did you even bother to watch the video I linked, the guy says it literally starts to get the back end out, as the power switches to more rear biased.
Its also showing the speed hes doing, plenty fast enough for real world road driving.
I think what people seem to get issues with with Audis in particular is they give the impression of understeer not actual understeer, the front feels "floaty"
If I switch mine to dynamic the steering is much heavier, more direct and far less floaty feeling. However i actually find I go no faster, in fact probably slower as I cant be arsed with the extra effort for my daily commute.
I guess the thing people point out that Audis are easy to drive fast is the thing, people dont notice the speed.
The video of the ring you linked appears to just show people going in too quick, particularly into what is a bend but doesnt appear so at that point.
Ive seen plenty of cars understeering off (then into oversteer as they hit the grass) on ring videos, of all makes, from standard cheapo hatches to ultra expensive ones, I am not sure what its really proving, the clips are too late to see whats actually the real cause of the people going off.
I think we've mixed up internet stereotypes. They might not be considered to handle 'well' or with any feel/involvement but I reckon you won't find many cars you could walk into a dealer and buy today that'll get round a corner faster than a 4WD RS3.
Sadly wrong, yep the internet is full of stories, mostly fake news by people and other companies trying to rubbish their competition. Some of which will go in the hands of legal experts.
The only true comment there is re some installers are poor. That can affect any brand of security, so for sure choose carefully, any system is only as good as it’s installed.
The give way is suggesting they are installed at the OBD.. WRONG. So far no one has defeated one, despite the claims of some. You can’t by plugging into the OBD. Unless your referring to people buying the knock off ones and trying to DIY it on the cheap?
Just because you read it on the internet or Google doesn’t make it correct or accurate.
I had a Viper system, it partly failed and now isn’t supported, in under 2 years, was also more expensive. I’ll never touch another Viper set-up again.
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People only care about straight-line speed on public roads that is pretty much where 80% of the bragging rights are, hence why cars like the GT86/MX5s always get looked down on as its not fast in straight-line and cost as much as a hot-hatch with a turbo.
Oddly you don't hear old Hondas getting the same abuse when they are built for driving fast around twisty roads too...
If your commute do contain a lot of twisty roads though then the better handling car will shine better than the straight-line bragging right crowds.
Oddly you don't hear old Hondas getting the same abuse when they are built for driving fast around twisty roads too...
If your commute do contain a lot of twisty roads though then the better handling car will shine better than the straight-line bragging right crowds.
You've stirred a right hornets nest here 
I think all hot hatches are so close to each other in terms of performance that it's really hard to separate them. In this instance, I think it'll be best if you went and drove them and found the one which really floats your boat; That's what I did with the A45. Hopefully the A45s does the same, when I get my hands on one of them!
I think all hot hatches are so close to each other in terms of performance that it's really hard to separate them. In this instance, I think it'll be best if you went and drove them and found the one which really floats your boat; That's what I did with the A45. Hopefully the A45s does the same, when I get my hands on one of them!
Think many have missed the point on Audi vs others on handling. Yes for sure the RS3 and the like will go around a corner quick. As confirmed by owners above, it does it easily, but in a disconnected “floaty” way that has little or no driver engagement.
The point of a Hot Hatch or any driver’s car is, or should be, the engagement it gives you. That has nothing to do with speed! The Audi way of doing things is for willy wavers who are not actually that interested in driving. Like can’t be bothered to switch to dynamic mode and buying an auto. They just feel they need to get somewhere fast and brag about the TLGP.
I guess the same people will embrace autonomous driving!
The point of a Hot Hatch or any driver’s car is, or should be, the engagement it gives you. That has nothing to do with speed! The Audi way of doing things is for willy wavers who are not actually that interested in driving. Like can’t be bothered to switch to dynamic mode and buying an auto. They just feel they need to get somewhere fast and brag about the TLGP.
I guess the same people will embrace autonomous driving!
I'm firmly in the RWD is for track days camp so no M3, and anyway they're more expensive.
A golf R with a moutune kit should get close to an RS3 or A45 for over 10K less nearer 15K if you look at a nearly new. The Golf R is also subtle next to an M3, RS3 or an A35/45.
You've stirred a right hornets nest here
I think all hot hatches are so close to each other in terms of performance that it's really hard to separate them. In this instance, I think it'll be best if you went and drove them and found the one which really floats your boat; That's what I did with the A45. Hopefully the A45s does the same, when I get my hands on one of them!
A45 wins on interior hands down, sounds good too, not sure about VFM or outright performance.
I'm also not sure they're all the same these days, they seem to group into 3
- ~200PS quick, light and nimble
- ~300PS seriously quick, may have lost some agility
- ~400PS should have put a lambo badge on the front.
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Seems to be the way with more modern hot hatches than not
the Audis aren't alone in not cornering well with assists off and horridly disconnected in doing so with them on.It is sooo much more satisfying in a RWD IMO.
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Any option is just a collection of compromises, you choose the ones you like. These debates often start with what’s the best hot hatch to only end in complaints about interior, styling or cost.
It really is quite simple, drive a few, it then becomes clear where your compromise are placed.
For me, even after 3 years of ownership there is only one that can put the biggest smile on your face and each time you drive it makes you go wow what a car. Admittedly with a few mods, but for me it’s the Focus RS, yep based on an old car/platform, and not many satin chrome bezels inside. Ford ignored the rule book and did it’s own thing, yep it’s flawed, or has character you decide. In 10 years time it will be the only one lined up at a show that people will admire and discuss at length...... if I didn’t have the RS it would be an M2 or an Leon Cupra. For me Audi make the most soulless cars going.
It really is quite simple, drive a few, it then becomes clear where your compromise are placed.
For me, even after 3 years of ownership there is only one that can put the biggest smile on your face and each time you drive it makes you go wow what a car. Admittedly with a few mods, but for me it’s the Focus RS, yep based on an old car/platform, and not many satin chrome bezels inside. Ford ignored the rule book and did it’s own thing, yep it’s flawed, or has character you decide. In 10 years time it will be the only one lined up at a show that people will admire and discuss at length...... if I didn’t have the RS it would be an M2 or an Leon Cupra. For me Audi make the most soulless cars going.
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Strange conclusions. The point of a hot hatch was it was an affordable car for the masses that gave something closer to the unaffordable fast cars that had come before. No manufacturer made statements of "it goes round corners fast but its slow in a striaght line", it was more about the engine than the handling in the earliest hot hates.
All audis have a slightly floaty steering feeling, its part of what makes them quicker for the normal driver I feel, the changes in how they feel with the changes in modes are difficult to explain, you either need to be a very experienced driver, driving constantly lots of cars, or an owner who can feel how its changed in different modes. Most who really understand the fast audis will switch the suspension from a hard setting to a softer one, you get more body roll and this triggers faster switching to rear bias.
Those who don't get it will always switch everything to hardest/dynamic and think its "best"
The modes are to give different experiences, someone who only thinks it should be in dynamic, is the sort of person who I guess would insist driving a car with track mode should always be in that as well, I mean its the most "drivers" right?
There is something about "old technology" fords
I agree. When Evos and Scoobs were the thing there was still a good group running the old cossies still and in those days it was a different breed as well.Some people will always be laggards, usually highlighted by saying a drivers car cannot have an auto box. Its old and boring, but everyone is entitled to the views.
I am sure the dinosaurs would prefer a manual box as well
Although I suspect they would prefer electric to fossil fuel based sourcesA45 interior is alright, but missed some basic functionality which you'd expect at this price point - for example, a touchscreen LCD - using MB's way of navigating can be clunky. The seats are brill, super comfy and inside everything is as it should be.
Apparently the new A45S puts things right when it comes to interior - if you check the A35 out, it'll be pretty similar to that.
I like the Golf R, it's a fantastic car - I would have probably bought one if it wasn't for my friend already owning one. So went a different route - the new RS3 wasn't out when I picked my A45 up - I had previously driven the older RS3 and didn't enjoy it (I was driving an A5 Sportback at the time). Tried the 135, didn't like it. I'm not a fan of BMWs, they don't do much for me. So the choice for me was pretty simple when I sat in the A45 and drove that - I had an extended test drive, took the car out for the day in the Welsh mountains and instantly knew it was the car for me.