i5 4690k to Ryzen5 3600? Worth it?

Toasty · 23 Jul 2019 at 14:45

Probably as they only look at averages frames while ignoring the much larger gains to 1% and 0.1% lows that comes with higher thread counts which are are far more noticeable during actual game play.

~>Dg<~ · 23 Jul 2019 at 14:55

it will obviously feel a lot smoother when playing as you have two extra cores for a start. so yes the raw frames wont tell the entire story.

G J · 23 Jul 2019 at 17:49

There's what a handfull of games the make a 4 core cpu struggle with certain settings but just do what one would do if you dont have a GPU that can push a games with all the graphics settings maxed and reduce the settings.

Its accepted to reduce settings with low end graphics cards but when its CPU's its the whole OMG 4 CORE DEAD!!!111 UNPLAYABLE STUTTER FEST!!!!

MegaPinches · 24 Jul 2019 at 15:24

Its not just about peak frame count, the lows will be much better, frame times and overall smoothness on the newer platform. Just comparing frame highs with a much older platform is only a fraction of the story.

Grafter67 · 24 Jul 2019 at 23:47

Comparing consoles to PC's is a waste of braincells

greatash · 25 Jul 2019 at 14:07

Yes its worth it 4c/4t is not enough for modern AAA games imo. I went from a 2500k 4.6 to ryzen 2600 and minimums over doubled in some games like kingdom come deliverance, assassins creed odyssey and battlefield 1/5.

styuR · 25 Jul 2019 at 16:00

I'm sat with a non-OC'd 6600k with an RTX 2070 Super on the way, I play at 1440p so surely just an OC on the CPU would be enough to cover the 2070 at that res?

jigger · 25 Jul 2019 at 16:14

styuR said:
I'm sat with a non-OC'd 6600k with an RTX 2070 Super on the way, I play at 1440p so surely just an OC on the CPU would be enough to cover the 2070 at that res?

For some games yes.

beany_bot · 25 Jul 2019 at 16:51

I went from 4690k @ 4.6Ghz to a 3700x and I think it's defo worth it in gaming. I'm loving it.

z10m · 25 Jul 2019 at 17:16

I switched from i7 [email protected] to R7 [email protected] hoping that I will be able to run a lot of programs in the background while gaming without performance hit and I have to say that I'm disappointed. Not only my average frame rate dropped (which was expected) but also I'm getting a lot of frame drops where my GPU usage drops to 70-80% and that's at 3440x1440 using 980ti..! No idea what is going on. (None of this was happening when running 6700K).
I didn't reinstall win 10 after the switch but why should I.?
Tomorrow I'm getting 2080ti delivered which will stress that poor CPU even more...

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 25 Jul 2019 at 17:18

z10m said:
I switched from i7 [email protected] to R7 [email protected] hoping that I will be able to run a lot of programs in the background while gaming without performance hit and I have to say that I'm disappointed. Not only my average frame rate dropped (which was expected) but also I'm getting a lot of frame drops where my GPU usage drops to 70-80% and that's at 3440x1440 using 980ti..! No idea what is going on.
I didn't reinstall win 10 after the switch but why should I.?
Tomorrow I'm getting 2080ti delivered which will stress that poor CPU even more...

Something is not right there - a mate had a Core i7 6700 and went to a mildly overclocked Ryzen 2700,and had a GTX1070 and now an RX5700XT,and he has a 1080p monitor IIRC. He has not reported games having problems.

z10m · 25 Jul 2019 at 17:21

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Something is not right there - a mate had a Core i7 6700 and went to a mildly overclocked Ryzen 2700,and had a GTX1070 and now an RX5700XT,and he has a 1080p monitor IIRC. He has not reported games having problems.

That's what I thought as everyone are reporting that gaming on 8 core Ryzen CPUs should be smooth.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 25 Jul 2019 at 17:23

z10m said:
That's what I thought as everyone are reporting that gaming on 8 core Ryzen CPUs should be smooth.

Have you tried running the CPU at stock clockspeeds? Is the RAM overclocked?? If so try running that at stock clockspeeds. It might be an unstable overclock.

z10m · 25 Jul 2019 at 17:40

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Have you tried running the CPU at stock clockspeeds? Is the RAM overclocked?? If so try running that at stock clockspeeds. It might be an unstable overclock.

Yeah could be that. Will give it a go tomorrow morning when I get home .
Ram is rated at 2400 and I'm running it at 2933 but it was running at that speed on Intel platform without any issues.

Drollic · 25 Jul 2019 at 22:24

z10m said:
I switched from i7 [email protected] to R7 [email protected] hoping that I will be able to run a lot of programs in the background while gaming without performance hit and I have to say that I'm disappointed. Not only my average frame rate dropped (which was expected) but also I'm getting a lot of frame drops where my GPU usage drops to 70-80% and that's at 3440x1440 using 980ti..! No idea what is going on. (None of this was happening when running 6700K).
I didn't reinstall win 10 after the switch but why should I.?
Tomorrow I'm getting 2080ti delivered which will stress that poor CPU even more...

The faff of fixing issues like that are why it's often best to just format and do a fresh install.

clown_abhi · 25 Jul 2019 at 23:25

An upgrade from the i5 to a Ryzen 3600 would be hell of an upgrade.

Dont just look at avg fps. I ugraded from an i7 2600k to Ryzen 2600. The average fps changed by about 15% but the minimum frame increased dramatically. And the i7 was 4 core 8 thread. The i5 is only 4 cores.

In shadow of the tomb raider benchmark. The frame rate used to dip to below 45. Now it doesnt go below 70. The effect that it had was too pronounced. I never expected that. Most reviews just show average fps and not smoothness in games.

In Division 2, when playing with 4 players online, the i7 used to reach 100% sometimes. On the ryzen it sits at about 50 to 60% max. The extra cores are so handy in multiplayer games.

And apart from gaming, everything else the ryzen chips crush intel so no discussion on that.

In short a ryzen is a super great upgrade from an i5 even to realise the full potential of your Graphics card and other components.

Orange Nexus · 25 Jul 2019 at 23:33

z10m said:
Yeah could be that. Will give it a go tomorrow morning when I get home .
Ram is rated at 2400 and I'm running it at 2933 but it was running at that speed on Intel platform without any issues.

You are moving to a 2080Ti, then you need at least 3200 CL14. Ideal - 3466 CL14.

http://imgur.com/a/LxKMSqf

marms · 26 Jul 2019 at 06:42

G J said:
There's what a handfull of games the make a 4 core cpu struggle with certain settings but just do what one would do if you dont have a GPU that can push a games with all the graphics settings maxed and reduce the settings.

Its accepted to reduce settings with low end graphics cards but when its CPU's its the whole OMG 4 CORE DEAD!!!111 UNPLAYABLE STUTTER FEST!!!!

If you lower the settings it will just reduce the load on the graphics card and increase the load on the cpu, causing even more stuttering in games.

Kirby Wurm · 26 Jul 2019 at 08:32

That'll make a huge difference in some games and into running multiple programmes. You'll see a big improvement in minimums and a decent jump in average frame rates. Very few games didn't notice when I went from a 4690K at 4.7GHz to an 8700K at 4.8GHz (comparable to the 3600).

beany_bot · 26 Jul 2019 at 09:30

The main difference I have noticed is consistency.
In some games my average frame rate has only improved maybe 10fps.

But my minimums are soooo much better. I get consistent frame rates throughout the game. Whereas before I would get lows and stutters.