Going soap free in the shower... forever.
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Would it work if I cover myself in probiotic yoghurt instead of £60 bacteria ?
Yoghurts contain gut-centric bacterium like Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium. Skin bacteria is different entirely. The Nitrosomonas are actually more similar to the stuff that lives in aquariums, converting fish waste (ammonia) into nitrites and then nitrates. I'm sure there are cheaper ways, though. For example an outdoorsy type existence in the countryside with plenty of earth, stream/well water and so on would do the job naturally.
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What about not washing for a week and then just washing with SLS free body washes ? Would that allow the good bacteria to cultivate ? Or just wash with SLS free body wash surely over time the good bacteria will return no ?
Yeah, as I said - but they don't float around in the air. They're found in healthy soil and river water. You're not going to fully magically re-cultivate out of fresh (city) air unfortunately... At least so far as I've read. I'm still researching it though. I do wonder whether it has to be Nitrosomonas eutropha. Other Nitrosomonas ssp. are available commercially much cheaper.
Here's an interesting study, using the same AO+ mist I used. They culture it in the lab, then test it against various soaps and body washes - as well as against pathogenic bacteria. TLDR, most soaps and body washes destroy it, bathing too frequently stops it growing back, and where it does exist bad bacteria is strongly inhibited and confers benefit for (human) host.
Is it though? What about when we spray aftershave and hours later we can no longer smell it, but everyone else can?
https://mentalfloss.com/article/53526/how-do-our-noses-adjust-bad-smells
I find it depends more on brand than the use of soap or body wash - some people will get on with some brands better than others, etc. I pretty much exclusively use Dove stuff at the moment as I find some brands make my skin drier and more acne prone and I know this brand doesn't. Some brands seem to be a race to the bottom at the moment for changing ingredients to use the cheapest (often nastiest - giving a feel like industrial soap) chemicals to maximise profits - which probably doesn't help for those with sensitive skin.
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Just LOL if you're not on my 20-point daily routine.
Noobs.
- Tie a plastic ice pack around face and commence morning stretching exercises
- Stand in front of a chrome and acrylic Washmobile bathroom sink – with soap dish, cup holder, and railings that serve as towel bars, bought at Hastings Tile to use while the marble sinks ordered from Finland are being sanded – stare at reflection with the ice pack still on
- Pour some Plax antiplaque formula into a stainless-steel tumbler and swish it around mouth for thirty seconds
- Squeeze Rembrandt onto a faux- tortoiseshell toothbrush and start brushing teeth (having flossed before bed last night), rinse with Listerine
- Inspect hands and use a nailbrush
- Take the ice-pack mask off and use a deep-pore cleanser lotion
- Then a herb-mint facial masque, leave on for ten minutes while checking toenails
- Use the Probright tooth polisher and next the Interplak tooth polisher (this in addition to the toothbrush) which has a speed of 4200 rpm and reverses direction forty-six times per second; the larger tufts clean between teeth and massage the gums while the short ones scrub the tooth surfaces
- Rinse again, with Cepacol, wash the facial massage off with a spearmint face scrub
- In the shower, use water-activated gel cleanser first, then a honey-almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub
- Vidal Sassoon shampoo is especially good at getting rid of the coating of dried perspiration, salts, oils, airborne pollutants and dirt that can weigh down hair and flatten it to the scalp which can make you look older. The conditioner is also good – silicone technology permits conditioning benefits without weighing down the hair which can also make you look older
- On weekends or before a date, use the Greune Natural Revitalising Shampoo, the conditioner and the Nutrient Complex. These are formulas that contain D-panthenol, a vitamin-B-complex factor; polysorbate 80, a cleansing agent for the scalp; and natural herbs
- Over the weekend, pick up a Foltene European Supplement and Shampoo for thinning hair which contains complex carbohydrates that penetrate the hair shafts for improved strength and shine. Also the Vivagen Hair Enrichment Treatment, a new Redken product that prevents mineral deposits and prolongs the life cycle of hair... Aramis Nutriplexx system, a nutrient complex that helps increase circulation
- Once out of the shower and towelled dry, put the Ralph Lauren boxers back on and before applying the Mousse A Raiser, a shaving cream by Pour Hommes; press a hot towel against face for two minutes to soften abrasive beard hair
- Then slather on a moisturiser (Clinique) and let it soak in for a minute. You can rinse it off or keep it on and apply a shaving cream over it – preferably with a brush, which softens the beard as it lifts the whiskers – makes removing the hair easier. Leave the sideburns and chin for last, since these whiskers are tougher and need more time to soften. Rinse the razor and shake off any excess water before starting
- Afterwards splash cool water on the face to remove any trace of lather. You should use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol. Never use cologne on your face, since the high alcohol content dries your face out and makes you look older. One should use an alcohol-free antibacterial toner with a water-moistened cotton ball to normalise the skin
- Applying a moisturiser is the final step. Splash on water before applying an emollient lotion to soften the skin and seal in the moisture
- Next apply Gel Appaisant, also made by Pour Hommes, which is an excellent, soothing skin lotion. If the face seems dry and flaky – which makes it look dull and older – use a clarifying lotion that removes flakes and uncovers fine skin (it can also make your tan look darker)
- Then apply an anti-ageing eye balm (Baume Des Yeux) followed by a final moisturising “protective” lotion
- A scalp-programming lotion is used towelling hair dry. Lightly blow-dry the hair to give it body and control (but without stickiness) and then add more of the lotion, shaping it with a Kent natural- bristle brush, and finally slick it back with a wide-tooth comb
Noobs.
People still use soap??have not used soap for a good 22 years
Because you use shower gel instead? soap is far more effective on my skin.
I read about Shampoo being evil and some people either just use conditioner or water. I finally used up my 2 in 1 last week and yesterday started on my conditioner only. My hair feels okay, not greasy or dirty and smells nice but it's not as 'free' as if I used shampoo which I hated anyway because trying to manage that was annoying.
Do her a favour and pick up Simple shower gel. Lidl / Also have their own brand and it’s really good (I wanna say Cien?). Much, much cheaper than Simple and just as good, if not better.
I used to get all sorts of rash / allergic reactions (proper ones too, itchy as hell) and my doc recommended to try them. It literally changed my life, no jokes.
Lurpak.
I went soap / shampoo a few years ago and haven't looked back since. In the shower I use a flannel and give the sweatier areas a decent scrub which does feel a little more brutal that without using soap. I exercise daily, cycling to and from work and go to the gym at lunchtime. I smell no different than when I used to use soap but have the benefits of skin that isn't as dry as it used to be and no spend on soaps or shampoos.
I came in here and thought it'd be full of dirty nonsense but it's quite interesting.. I used to get eczema badly when I was young and bathed all the time. Now I shower and the only areas I get eczema are those I put shower gel on. I never bother to lather up my legs or feet but do underarms, head and genitals - the only areas I get any... I don't on my legs or feet.. I might look into this..
I've mostly used SLS free shower gel etc.. for a while now. I never really used to go OTT with soap anyway on a daily basis, obvs I do shower every day but when it comes to things like washing your hair with shampoo you don't want to do that daily. Face, pits and bits are the only things to really use soap on daily. And hands much more regularly. I'd suspect that SLS is perfectly fine so long as you're not coating your entire body in it on a daily basis and stripping everything off... then again plenty of SLS free stuff out there.
Have previously used sulphur soap before, found it once after I'd been to the gym on a hot day and ended up walking home when a sudden downpour happened, I was feeling quite good after the gym session and just walked along through the rain to cool off a bit... had a shower when I got in but within a few days I'd got some fungal/ring worm thing... had never had anything like it - got some sulphur soap and it sorted it pretty quickly, works on acne etc.. too. Does stink out the bathroom so not bothered carrying on using the stuff.
^^^ Apparently this sort of soap was used back in Roman times
Have previously used sulphur soap before, found it once after I'd been to the gym on a hot day and ended up walking home when a sudden downpour happened, I was feeling quite good after the gym session and just walked along through the rain to cool off a bit... had a shower when I got in but within a few days I'd got some fungal/ring worm thing... had never had anything like it - got some sulphur soap and it sorted it pretty quickly, works on acne etc.. too. Does stink out the bathroom so not bothered carrying on using the stuff.
^^^ Apparently this sort of soap was used back in Roman times
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