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If RTX was added on World of Tanks or Elder Scrolls Online

They really should redo Skyrim on a better engine (and update gameplay mechanics and UI to make them less clunky) now with Ray Tracing and online functionality - still a lot of life in the story and world side of that game.

I had a nice setup with mods, SkyUI and so on but forgot to backup my final version of the ini file and a GPU change reset too much stuff and I could never get the setup I had working again :( it had fixed all z-fighting to the horizon, trees with proper density to the horizon, etc. as well as enhanced foliage.
 
They really should redo Skyrim on a better engine (and update gameplay mechanics and UI to make them less clunky) now with Ray Tracing and online functionality - still a lot of life in the story and world side of that game.

I had a nice setup with mods, SkyUI and so on but forgot to backup my final version of the ini file and a GPU change reset too much stuff and I could never get the setup I had working again :( it had fixed all z-fighting to the horizon, trees with proper density to the horizon, etc. as well as enhanced foliage.

Skyrim is crap. Played it but never got me hooked. ESO on the other hand is far far superior game. And imho the best MMORPG since DAOC.
And it would greatly improve with DX12 so why not drop DXR. :D

See that scene and imagine it with proper ray tracing and shadows.
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(the above is taken with Vega 64, having overwritten settings to 4K ingame rendering and driver override the AA to 2xMSAA and AF16)
 
Skyrim is crap.

Yes and no - there are a lot of problems with the game but heavily modded it is a much better experience and has some decent depth to the world building and so on. I could never enjoy it out the box but with stuff like SkyUI, etc. I managed to get into it a lot more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDINl4dST8

Was how my Skyrim was looking - was just getting to sorting some better 3D textures for things like roads and walls, etc. when I managed to destroy the ini file and couldn't get it running again as I couldn't remember my exact settings :( having so many active cells, etc. broke the game unless you tuned it to very specific tolerances.
 
Yes and no - there are a lot of problems with the game but heavily modded it is a much better experience and has some decent depth to the world building and so on. I could never enjoy it out the box but with stuff like SkyUI, etc. I managed to get into it a lot more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDINl4dST8

Was how my Skyrim was looking - was just getting to sorting some better 3D textures for things like roads and walls, etc. when I managed to destroy the ini file and couldn't get it running again as I couldn't remember my exact settings :( having so many active cells, etc. broke the game unless you tuned it to very specific tolerances.

I played it in 2011 quite a lot. However didn't kept me more than the initial run. And I do have all the DLCs which never touched.
Somehow after starting ESO in 2014, I find Skyrim simply meh.
Sure the engine is flexible, and you can add textures etc, making the only game where an RVII 16GB VRAM can be utilized fully :D but still not my cup of tea any more.
The next single player ES has to be truly very good for me to buy it. However given it takes place in High Rock, it will be full of Orcs and Bretons. So pah, this one doesn't want to leave the warm sands of Elswyer :D
 
It's not surprising tbh. Something I expected all along. 2070 ahead of the 1080 Ti, 2080 25% faster than the 1080 Ti and 2080 S even further up the road.
1080 Ti was overpriced towards the end of it's "sales" life. Would be mad to pay more than £275-300 abs max used now IMO, even less for older cards.

It's one game, an outlier at that. The 2070 is not faster than the 1080Ti.
 
Skyrim is crap. Played it but never got me hooked. ESO on the other hand is far far superior game. And imho the best MMORPG since DAOC.
And it would greatly improve with DX12 so why not drop DXR. :D

See that scene and imagine it with proper ray tracing and shadows.
QtBheIg.jpg



(the above is taken with Vega 64, having overwritten settings to 4K ingame rendering and driver override the AA to 2xMSAA and AF16)
ESO is just a different game. Skyrim is a game that defines a generation of gamers.
 
It's one game, an outlier at that. The 2070 is not faster than the 1080Ti.
But it's a newer game, something the 20 series will be better at. 2070 S will be consistently ahead and for £380 or so brand new the 5700XT is in the mix too now. Even just one game, it shows the potential in newer GPU's that's now lacking in older gen, so when games developed properly, this is the performance level we should expect and this I reckon will be similar to the pecking order moving forward. We also all want the best performance (or performance vs visuals) from a game for the 10+ hours we'll be playing it.
It's still be good to wait for the 3000 series but by then the 10 series will have a very low resale value I think - RT will be all the rage
 
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But it's a newer game, something the 20 series will be better at. 2070 S will be consistently ahead and for £380 or so brand new the 5700XT is in the mix too now. Even just one game though, it shows the potential in newer GPU's that's now lacking in older gen, so when games developed properly, this is the performance level we should expect

No, it's an outlier, there are always outliers. You have been talking up the potential of these new GPUs since launch, yet a almost a year later, there are only a handful of games available that they excel at. And by the time there are a meaningful amount of games, Pascal cards and Turing cards won't matter. The 1080Ti was still a better buy than the 2080 before lack of stock skyrocketed the 1080ti prices. And with the 2080 super release, the 1080ti was an even better buy back then.
 
No, it's an outlier, there are always outliers. You have been talking up the potential of these new GPUs since launch, yet a almost a year later, there are only a handful of games available that they excel at. And by the time there are a meaningful amount of games, Pascal cards and Turing cards won't matter. The 1080Ti was still a better buy than the 2080 before lack of stock skyrocketed the 1080ti prices. And with the 2080 super release, the 1080ti was an even better buy back then.
WIll you be playing the game? If so, that's 10+hours however where you'd be getting better performance from a higher end Turing card with that game so it matters. We're all FPS queens at the end of the day (or balanced with visuals) , after all, that was what many complained about when the 20 series landed (small FPS increase):). It's 25% extra performance from the 2080 in that title which is considerable. I don't get through loads of different games in a year so even if the odd game that I play shows a huge leap in performance or has RT, it matters and I think that's the case for others too.
IMO the price was too high for the 1080 Ti at EOL. To me the 2080 was an "expensive" no brainer option to buy. Shame the price was high but still made more sense.
 
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WIll you be playing the game? If so, that's 10+hours however where you'd be getting better performance from a higher end Turing card with that game so it matters. We're all FPS queens at the end of the day (or balanced with visuals) , after all, that was what many complained about when the 20 series landed (small FPS increase):). It's 25% extra performance from the 2080 in that title which is considerable. I don't get through loads of different games in a year so even if the odd game that I play shows a huge leap in performance or has RT, it matters and I think that's the case for others too.
IMO the price was too high for the 1080 Ti at EOL. To me the 2080 was an "expensive" no brainer option to buy. Shame the price was high but still made more sense.

If you referring to Wolfenstein Youngblood, is just 7 hours solo and 3 hours co-op. Nowhere near 10 hours. With zero replayability.
 
I'm mulling the idea of getting some cheap programmer kit off amazon to flash a new bios if my overclock is cack. Wonder if it's worth doing
 
If you referring to Wolfenstein Youngblood, is just 7 hours solo and 3 hours co-op. Nowhere near 10 hours. With zero replayability.

and it doesn’t even have RTX enabled yet...a bit like waiting for shadow of the tomb raider by the time RTX arrived most people finished the game moved on an many turned RTX off as it tanked performance. :p
 
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