Questions about X570 Chipset temps and fan speeds

Jimmy Weirdarms · 28 Jul 2019 at 18:52

Hi folks,

I have an ASRock Phantom Gaming 4, about the budget end of the current X570 lineup. I noticed today it's loud inside my new machine - in the ASRock monitoring software tells me that my SB Temp is sat around 75 degrees, and has gone over 80 when I've had the system under load for a while. The "SB Fan speed" sits around 4.2K constantly and is contributing to the noise level.

I noticed when I looked inside that the large heatsink and fan on my graphics card completely cover the motherboard chipset fan intake, with no clearance at all.

Running with the case open, both sides, saw the max SB temp stay around 70.

So... questions -
Are those chipset temperatures and chipset fan speeds "Normal"?
Is it OK for the chipset to run over 80C at times?
Should I return the ASRock board for a board with a fan in a better position?
Or do I just need some more case ventilation?

MSI seem to have their chipset fans in a much better spot, further away from the main PCIe slot.

Jamin280672 · 28 Jul 2019 at 20:01

Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Hi folks,

I have an ASRock Phantom Gaming 4, about the budget end of the current X570 lineup. I noticed today it's loud inside my new machine - in the ASRock monitoring software tells me that my SB Temp is sat around 75 degrees, and has gone over 80 when I've had the system under load for a while. The "SB Fan speed" sits around 4.2K constantly and is contributing to the noise level.

I noticed when I looked inside that the large heatsink and fan on my graphics card completely cover the motherboard chipset fan intake, with no clearance at all.

Running with the case open, both sides, saw the max SB temp stay around 70.

So... questions -
Are those chipset temperatures and chipset fan speeds "Normal"?
Is it OK for the chipset to run over 80C at times?
Should I return the ASRock board for a board with a fan in a better position?
Or do I just need some more case ventilation?

MSI seem to have their chipset fans in a much better spot, further away from the main PCIe slot.

My chipset is currently at 56oC, in the bios I have changed the chipset fan spec to performance mode due to the hot weather we are having at the moment, the fan is currently running at 1570rpm and I cant hear a thing, when the chipset reaches 60oC, the fan speeds up to 2100rpm, still cant hear anything, 72oC is the most ive seen it go up to and the only way ive ever heard it was switching it to manual and ramping it up to full speed which I think is around 3100rpm or something like that.

When the weather cools down a bit, i'll turn it back to balanced mode where the fan doesnt even come on at all until 60oC.

Im not sure what the max temp is the chipset is, id imagine probably around 95oC.....maybe more.

Its an MSI X570 Ace by the way.

EDIT: A guy with a taichi said he was having the same problem, and got shutdown at 80oC on the chipset, he vertically mounted the GPU in the end to get it away from the chipset fan and doesnt have a problem anymore: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ccyxmn/psa_x570_taichi_design_flaw_chipset_overheat/

Maybe the heatpipe on some of these boards makes a big difference after all.

According to this post, ASRock confirmed the max chipset temp is indeed 95oC: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ch6esz/x570_board_owners_what_kind_of_chipset/

Smak · 28 Jul 2019 at 20:10

I don't think the fan on my MEG ACE has even reached temps high enough to start or at least not to audible level on a low noise setup.

Jamin280672 · 28 Jul 2019 at 20:22

Smak said:
I don't think the fan on my MEG ACE has even reached temps high enough to start our at least not to audible level on a low noise setup.

You wont hear it at all until it reaches 2800rpm+ and then its only a very slight whine, like I said I didnt hear it screaming away until I just wanted to hear what it sounded like, so I switched it to manual and ramped it upto 100%, I think that was somewhere around 3100rpm or 3500rpm, cant remember the top speed.

Quite happy really as I very nearly went for the Taichi, went for the Ace in the end as it had everything I wanted and ive been using MSI boards for the past 2 years so was familiar with the bios layout etc, change is not always good.

Jimmy Weirdarms · 28 Jul 2019 at 20:30

Reading that reddit page I got the idea to try running "Heaven" and "Crystal Disk Mark" at the same time. My chipset temperature is now 92 94 degrees.

I think this board is going back, it's a serious design flaw for the larger GFX card user. It's a problem with ASRock's whole range of X570s too.

Josu · 28 Jul 2019 at 21:34

I have MEG Ace and chipset temps are 71 even on desktop
Update. and by some strange reason fan not starting

Jamin280672 · 28 Jul 2019 at 21:49

Thought id give your benchmark test setup a go myself, here's the results: https://imgur.com/XjDdR1A

@Josu what are you monitoring temps with ? with the new HWInfo, ive noticed the CPU and the Chipset has 2 temp sensors its seems, the 2nd one on its own which you can see in my picture above is about 10oC higher than the one in the square red box, the one on its own is labelled (AMD X570 chipset in brackets although you cant see it as I dont have that section opened up enough, and the one in the group is labelled Nuvoton NCT6797D) and the same for the 2 CPU temps in the square red box too, theres exactly 10oC between the 2 of those, its a habit of AMD's to do this to get fans too start up sooner.

You can also see the chipset fan speed in that picture set to performance mode in the bios.

Jimmy Weirdarms · 28 Jul 2019 at 22:47

Oh interesting. I was using the motherboard vendor's utility to look at chipset temps (and the others). Oh well, the ASRock has been accepted for RMA now, and there ought to be an MSI coming.

Looks like your temps are a good 20 degrees less than mine either way!

What are you using to cool the Ryzen 3800X? I'm using the Wraith it came with and wasn't getting anywhere near such good temps. I think my case airflow needs a bit of work...

ltron · 28 Jul 2019 at 22:53

Jamin280672 said:
My chipset is currently at 56oC, in the bios I have changed the chipset fan spec to performance mode due to the hot weather we are having at the moment, the fan is currently running at 1570rpm and I cant hear a thing, when the chipset reaches 60oC, the fan speeds up to 2100rpm, still cant hear anything, 72oC is the most ive seen it go up to and the only way ive ever heard it was switching it to manual and ramping it up to full speed which I think is around 3100rpm or something like that.

When the weather cools down a bit, i'll turn it back to balanced mode where the fan doesnt even come on at all until 60oC.

Im not sure what the max temp is the chipset is, id imagine probably around 95oC.....maybe more.

Its an MSI X570 Ace by the way.

EDIT: A guy with a taichi said he was having the same problem, and got shutdown at 80oC on the chipset, he vertically mounted the GPU in the end to get it away from the chipset fan and doesnt have a problem anymore: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ccyxmn/psa_x570_taichi_design_flaw_chipset_overheat/

Maybe the heatpipe on some of these boards makes a big difference after all.

According to this post, ASRock confirmed the max chipset temp is indeed 95oC: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ch6esz/x570_board_owners_what_kind_of_chipset/

The GPU will block the vent for the fan on the Asrock board. Thankfully MSI thought of this and are the only ones to move the fan lower so it would not be blocked by the GPU.

ltron · 28 Jul 2019 at 22:54

Josu said:
I have MEG Ace and chipset temps are 71 even on desktop
Update. and by some strange reason fan not starting

Go into your BIOS and check whether your chipset fan is on the silent profile. Silent does not turn the chipset fan on until it reaches 75C. If you are not happy, set it to the default Balanced mode.

Josu · 29 Jul 2019 at 01:34

ltron said:
Go into your BIOS and check whether your chipset fan is on the silent profile. Silent does not turn the chipset fan on until it reaches 75C. If you are not happy, set it to the default Balanced mode.

They are on balanced
And i have only 1 chipset temp - https://prnt.sc/ol97ki
Apparently after PC going back from SLEEP - chipset fan not working, i need to test this
And probably my case dont have best airflow

ltron · 29 Jul 2019 at 01:36

Josu said:
They are on balanced
And i have only 1 chipset temp - https://prnt.sc/ol97ki
Apparently after PC going back from SLEEP - chipset fan not working, i need to test this
And probably my case dont have best airflow

Sounds like a BIOS bug, MSI need to fix it.

Jamin280672 · 29 Jul 2019 at 03:11

Josu said:
They are on balanced
And i have only 1 chipset temp - https://prnt.sc/ol97ki
Apparently after PC going back from SLEEP - chipset fan not working, i need to test this
And probably my case dont have best airflow

Says in that picture that your fan is running at 2100rpm for your chipset and its running at 63oC, thats perfectly fine.

Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Oh interesting. I was using the motherboard vendor's utility to look at chipset temps (and the others). Oh well, the ASRock has been accepted for RMA now, and there ought to be an MSI coming.

Looks like your temps are a good 20 degrees less than mine either way!

What are you using to cool the Ryzen 3800X? I'm using the Wraith it came with and wasn't getting anywhere near such good temps. I think my case airflow needs a bit of work...

Im custom water cooling my 3800X.

Mandroid · 29 Jul 2019 at 05:11

X570 Ultra here, my GPU half covers the fan but the chipset stays under 50 degrees & with the silent profile the fan hardly ever spins.

Jimmy Weirdarms · 29 Jul 2019 at 09:17

Mandroid said:
X570 Ultra here, my GPU half covers the fan but the chipset stays under 50 degrees & with the silent profile the fan hardly ever spins.

Lucky you

I've done a fairly comprehensive review of the boards I can find available. Looks like the fan position varies by brand, but is fairly consistent across the ranges. I think my Palit 2080 Ti would block the fan on all ASRock and ASUS boards and partially obscure it on Gigabyte boards, but be 100% fine on MSI (my girlfriend has one of the MSI X570 boards and the fan is completely clear of her MSI 2070S Ventus OC) .

It's only going to be a such an extreme problem with large (2.5 slot) and long cards, but it looks like a huge design flaw to me.

Jamin280672 said:
Im custom water cooling my 3800X.

Nice. I'm going to replace the mainboard with an MSI and add a couple of case fans to help the general flow, then think about a custom loop down the line a bit.

Jamin280672 · 29 Jul 2019 at 10:12

Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Lucky you

I've done a fairly comprehensive review of the boards I can find available. Looks like the fan position varies by brand, but is fairly consistent across the ranges. I think my Palit 2080 Ti would block the fan on all ASRock and ASUS boards and partially obscure it on Gigabyte boards, but be 100% fine on MSI (my girlfriend has one of the MSI X570 boards and the fan is completely clear of her MSI 2070S Ventus OC) .

It's only going to be a such an extreme problem with large (2.5 slot) and long cards, but it looks like a huge design flaw to me.

Nice. I'm going to replace the mainboard with an MSI and add a couple of case fans to help the general flow, then think about a custom loop down the line a bit.

If you're quick with your purchase of the msi ace, then you get a free Corsair AIO with it, just register on the msi website take a couple of photos of serial numbers, barcodes and receipt upload them and fill out a small form, then just have to wait, mines on its way.

Jimmy Weirdarms · 29 Jul 2019 at 10:54

Jamin280672 said:
If you're quick with your purchase of the msi ace, then you get a free Corsair AIO with it, just register on the msi website take a couple of photos of serial numbers, barcodes and receipt upload them and fill out a small form, then just have to wait, mines on its way.

Thanks for the heads up, but I'm just going for the X570-A Pro. I can't see me needing another GFX card slot, and two onboard M2 slots with a third in the PCIe x16(actually x4) slot will do me. I've already spent £2K on this build, I'm not going to slap on another 10% for features I might want later!

Mandroid · 30 Jul 2019 at 13:37

Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Lucky you

Not so lucky after all

new build was working fine, updated the X570 Aorus Ultra bios to latest version, temps were all fine then all of a sudden while I was setting up & tweaking Windows, the computer just shut itself off & won't turn back on. Tried a different PSU etc, so either the Ultra or the 3700X died for no reason, my guess is it was the mobo...returning both.

Jimmy Weirdarms · 30 Jul 2019 at 13:52

Mandroid said:
Not so lucky after all new build was working fine, updated the X570 Aorus Ultra bios to latest version, temps were all fine then all of a sudden while I was setting up & tweaking Windows, the computer just shut itself off & won't turn back on. Tried a different PSU etc, so either the Ultra or the 3700X died for no reason, my guess is it was the mobo...returning both.

Awww no! That's crap. I feel your pain though, my mobo is going back and I have to spend tonight un-building the machine, and will be without it while the replacement gets sorted

Legionaire68 · 30 Jul 2019 at 16:18

Josu said:
I have MEG Ace and chipset temps are 71 even on desktop
Update. and by some strange reason fan not starting

That seems high, my ACE chipset sits at 53 (according to MSI Dragon centre) most of the time with the fan off until it reaches 60, the only time i hear it is when it spins up at startup.